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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Nobody will be allowed to go long believing the Republicans' hearts were in the right place when most their ideology and almost all their policy runs contrary to the interests of the vast majority of struggling Americans. Their power lasts as long as they can keep gerrymandering, conning, capitalizing on Democrat mistakes, and just generally stalling things out as long as they can.
    Nobody will be allowed? You are in charge of how we "have to think", are ya?

    Wow, have any proof of such silliness of which you speak? What policies specifically go against the majority of Americans? We are only supposed to be for struggling Americans now, not for the overall well being of the nation?

    So, we strive for equality as the Democrat would have it, wealth equally distributed, everyone being equally dirt eating poor... that is just and fair I am sure.

    That is just, sorry to have to break it to ya, a completely naive and/or dumb idea.

    And, regarding all the things of which you accuse just the Republicans... I think the apropos saying here, "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The list of "unconstitutional" overreach here in the USA is long. Most of it approved by SCOTUS long before Obama was a sprouting seed in his mamma's uterus.
    I agree.

    In my mind ninety percent of the guns laws, like thoes which ban felons from possessing weapons, are like that.
    I still agree.

    So too are all the infringements on protections against search and seizure. We now have Habeas Corpus requirements denied by SCOTUS.
    I continue to agree.

    And, in some ways, even the Constitutional protection against the Quartering of Soldiers has been ignored as no Knock Warrants which give agents of the government the Right to enter your home uninvited to arrest you and set up temporary base there as they build a case against you.
    Yep. I agree.

    Obamacare is the least egregious of any of those gvt overreaches I listed,
    I believe this is the most damaging to our liberty and to the remaining life of the US as a 'free" nation. This is what the communists did in the former Soviet Union.

    but yet few "Conservatives" ever rail against those infringements. So...excuse me for calling out their hypocrisy.
    Are you speaking for everyone?

    Constitutional Conservatives are fighting the Article V fight to restore the nation to a Constitutionally limited government. That covers everything you listed above and probably more.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The only people I see urging we screw the American people on social security is the right.
    In what way Hay? Social Security cannot be sustained as it is. If we begin today to completely privatize it for every child under 26 (you know the age to which someone can mooch off their Parents before they begin to mooch off their still working and productive neighbors) and every year expand the opportunity for another year group to go private we can destroy the beast and save the people and the nation.

    For those above the age of 50 we can have the option. If you like your social security you can keep it. If you don't you can cash it in and take that money to the private sector.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We had that debate.

    Your side lost.
    Did we? Can you point to the Constitutional Amendment that allows such a horrible, tyrannical thing? Do you believe it is okay because we have been doing this for a long time?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Apparently you like being fooled, however I do not. They would have paid the same amount whether or not the bottom paid taxes or not. You can call it a progressive tax until you're blue in the face, but it is clearly not.
    It is progressive by any definition of the term. Higher incomes pay a greater percentage and a greater amount.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It is progressive by any definition of the term. Higher incomes pay a greater percentage and a greater amount.
    But that doesn't happen on an individual basis as I've said before. It a bogus claim.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    But that doesn't happen on an individual basis as I've said before. It a bogus claim.
    It absolutely happens on an individual basis.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It absolutely happens on an individual basis.
    Wrong, the amount of taxes paid by the individual is the same whether or not the lower incomes pays taxes. What changes when the lower incomes are eliminated, is the percentage of the total of all taxes the individual pays. I think that's what your talking about.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you do not believe that the government of the American people should honor their commitments to the American people?
    Certainly. I believe all commitments should be honored. But in the case of governments, changing administrations, unforeseen circumstances and massive spending and debt, I don't believe they can honor their commitments.

    Keep in mind that these commitments were made by other administrations, not by those responsible for those commitments when they come due. I certainly wouldn't put myself in the position where I had to trust the government for my well being when I'm retired, no matter how well intentioned they might have been at the time.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    We didn't necessarily specially need Al Gore, but we needed someone who had the vision and he was the one.
    Sometimes a project is so big and expensive it takes the government to undertake it.
    But it wasn't big and expensive and it was begun privately. Do you really believe politicians are visionaries?

    Al Gore did very well with his global warming hustle but that was done privately also.

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