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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    The government ought not have made the commitment in the first place. But I would be fine with the government paying everyone back what they contributed. And then it should be shut down.
    That was NOT the commitment the government made.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Ahh I see. There's also the option of choosing to change the system from within, but you ignored that part. Well of course there's also the Lenin analogy. The Russians could have just accepted gulags and anyone who didn't like it should have just left. Sure lots of people left but anyone who didn't had no right to complain about gulags.

    You're doing mental backflips to justify pyramid schemes. That they're popular doesn't change that fact that they are indeed pyramid schemes.
    All I am doing is explaining reality to you.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Obamascare and Benghazigedden are Fox News manufactured crisises, simply red meat thrown to the faithful.
    that's idiotic. Obamataxcare is a joke, millions cannot sign up and Benghazi has dead people.



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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That was NOT the commitment the government made.
    Oh, did the government commit to giving everyone a unicorn that craps out skittles?

    They shouldn't have made a commitment that entailed them taking money from some people and giving it to others. That is completely immoral. There is nothing good about robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So without Al Gore we would not have had the Internet and without the government we would not have had high-end technology. How do you suppose mankind advanced at all without the government instructing entrepreneurs where to invest their time and money? All those inventions would never have happened, huh?
    We didn't necessarily specially need Al Gore, but we needed someone who had the vision and he was the one.
    Sometimes a project is so big and expensive it takes the government to undertake it.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yup.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    All I am doing is explaining reality to you.
    It's a pyramid scheme scheme too. That's also a reality.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course it was. And they could get out of it at any time they wished.
    So you are arguing that they voluntarily entered into the commitment? That they signed up voluntarily?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Of course they paid less. It was a tax cut. But they did not escape their income tax obligation, whereas many at the bottom were relieved of their burden, thereby making the tax code more progressive.
    Apparently you like being fooled, however I do not. They would have paid the same amount whether or not the bottom paid taxes or not. You can call it a progressive tax until you're blue in the face, but it is clearly not.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Oh, did the government commit to giving everyone a unicorn that craps out skittles?

    They shouldn't have made a commitment that entailed them taking money from some people and giving it to others. That is completely immoral. There is nothing good about robbing Peter to pay Paul.
    It is always interesting to see how the far right finds ways to renege on promises to the people.
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