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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That's not progressive taxation!!! Some of those people who paid no taxes were millionaires.
    Do you not understand the progressive taxation?

    Progressive tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Millionares pay more taxes than anyone, except for billionares.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only need to be better than you and I have proven that.

    Missing in your world is personal responsibility and the failure of liberalism as well as leadership. Looks like 60% of the people in this country disagree with you but then what would anyone else expect from an Obamabot
    I'm far from a liberal. I do, however, completely disagree with most of what you spew out, which I consider to be Far Right nonsense.

    BTW: If 60% of the people agreed with you then Obama would never have won two terms. Do you even bother reading what you write?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I suggest you review the data. The GWB tax cuts made the federal income tax more progressive.

    Tax Code Became More Progressive after the Bush Tax Cuts

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    Tax Code Became More. Progressive after the Bush Tax Cuts by Michael D. Stroup. Critics complain that the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts gave the greatest tax ...
    Thanks, but no thanks, linking to a RW site proves nothing.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There is good spending and bad spending. Dropping bombs on a country that didn't attack you is bad spending. Spending that creates wealth and jobs is good spending.
    Flying planes into our buildings requires bad spending as well something you want to ignore. There is nothing anyone can do about the Iraq War today but there is plenty this country can do about bad economic policies today going forward. If Obama has had good spending, where are the jobs? There are 3 million fewer Americans working today than when the recession began

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143150 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
    2007 146028 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
    2008 146397 146157 146108 146130 145929 145738 145530 145196 145059 144792 144078 143328
    2009 142187 141660 140754 140654 140294 140003 139891 139458 138775 138401 138607 137968
    2010 138500 138665 138836 139306 139340 139137 139139 139338 139344 139072 138937 139220
    2011 139330 139551 139764 139628 139808 139385 139450 139754 140107 140297 140614 140790
    2012 141608 142019 142020 141934 142302 142448 142250 142164 142974 143328 143277 143305
    2013 143322 143492 143286 143579 143898 144058 144285 144170 143568
    and there are only 1.4 million more people working today than when Obama took office at an additional cost of 6.5 trillion added to the debt. apparently that is your idea of good spending?

    All Obama has done is create more dependence with his spending something you and others fail to understand.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, just more than you

    You have no concept of leadership. The Democrats were at war with Reagan too but Reagan showed leadership skills, something neither you or Obama understand.

    Keep diverting and ignoring the Obama record as any good little Obamabot will do
    You just avoided taking responsibility for the statements you made even after agreeing that you did not know better than those who argue the exact opposite of what you assert.

    Let me refresh. Professionals from Bernake to the CEO of Wal-Mart insist that the GOP austerity efforts have cost the economy upwards 3 million jobs. You, OTOH, blame Obama. Will you ever admit when you are wrong?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There is good spending and bad spending. Dropping bombs on a country that didn't attack you is bad spending. Spending that creates wealth and jobs is good spending.
    Obama seems only to have opted only for the former.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Millionares pay more taxes than anyone, except for billionares.
    Yup.

    National Taxpayers Union - Who Pays Income Taxes?

    National Taxpayers UnionTax Basics
    ... Who Pays Income Taxes? Are You Paying Too Much in Taxes? Taxes ... Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid. Top 1%. $343,927. 36.73. Top 5%.

    Who Pays Income Taxes and How Much?

    Tax Year 2009
    Percentiles Ranked by AGI
    AGI Threshold on Percentiles
    Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid
    Top 1%
    $343,927
    36.73
    Top 5%
    $154,643
    58.66
    Top 10%
    $112,124
    70.47
    Top 25%
    $66,193
    87.30
    Top 50%
    $32,396
    97.75
    Bottom 50%
    <$32,396
    2.25
    Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income
    Source: Internal Revenue Service
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm far from a liberal. I do, however, completely disagree with most of what you spew out, which I consider to be Far Right nonsense.

    BTW: If 60% of the people agreed with you then Obama would never have won two terms. Do you even bother reading what you write?
    The difference is what I spew is backed by data and I can beat you to death all day with data. In the real world people are judged by there performance mostly backed by data. You seem to not understand the concept which unfortunately compares you to an Obamabot. You claim not to be a liberal, if not, then stop supporting the incompetent in the WH.

    Obama won re-election because millions of people stayed home. He lost millions of votes from his previous election and what we have today are people finally waking up to the incompetence that was in the 2008 resume.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    You just avoided taking responsibility for the statements you made even after agreeing that you did not know better than those who argue the exact opposite of what you assert.

    Let me refresh. Professionals from Bernake to the CEO of Wal-Mart insist that the GOP austerity efforts have cost the economy upwards 3 million jobs. You, OTOH, blame Obama. Will you ever admit when you are wrong?
    Where were those austerity programs in 2009-2011? What economic policies did Obama want that he didn't get? You think Obamacare is a pro growth economic policy? You want badly to believe what you are told but BLS shows a different picture including the following. Discouraged workers aren't counted thus aren't unemployed.

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS13000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Unemployment Level
    Labor force status: Unemployed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 2000 to 2010

    Unemployed

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2000 5708 5858 5733 5481 5758 5651 5747 5853 5625 5534 5639 5634
    2001 6023 6089 6141 6271 6226 6484 6583 7042 7142 7694 8003 8258
    2002 8182 8215 8304 8599 8399 8393 8390 8304 8251 8307 8520 8640
    2003 8520 8618 8588 8842 8957 9266 9011 8896 8921 8732 8576 8317
    2004 8370 8167 8491 8170 8212 8286 8136 7990 7927 8061 7932 7934
    2005 7784 7980 7737 7672 7651 7524 7406 7345 7553 7453 7566 7279
    2006 7059 7185 7075 7122 6977 6998 7154 7097 6853 6728 6883 6784
    2007 7085 6898 6725 6845 6765 6966 7113 7096 7200 7273 7284 7696
    2008 7678 7491 7816 7631 8395 8578 8950 9450 9501 10083 10544 11299
    2009 12049 12860 13389 13796 14505 14727 14646 14861 15012 15421 15227 15124
    2010 14953 15039 15128 15221 14876 14517 14609 14735 14574 14636 15104 14393
    2011 13919 13751 13628 13792 13892 14024 13908 13920 13897 13759 13323 13097
    2012 12748 12806 12686 12518 12695 12701 12745 12483 12082 12248 12042 12206
    2013 12332 12032 11742 11659 11760 11777 11514 11316 11255 11272

    Discouraged workers

    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945
    2012 1059 1006 865 968 830 821 852 844 802 813 979 1068
    2013 804 885 803 835 780 1027 988 866 852 815

    Unemployed + Discouraged

    2008 8145 7887 8217 8043 8795 8998 9411 9831 9968 10567 11152 11941
    2009 12783 13591 14074 14536 15297 15520 15442 15619 15718 16229 16088 16053
    2010 16018 16243 16122 16418 15959 15724 15794 15845 15783 15855 16386 15711
    2011 14912 14771 14549 14781 14714 15006 15027 14897 14934 14726 14419 14042

    2012 13807 13812 13551 13486 13525 13522 13597 13327 12884 13061 13021 13274
    2013 13136 12917 12545 12577 12540 12804 12502 12182 12107 12087 0 0

    Labor Force 2009 154185 154424 154100 154453 154805 154754 154457 154362 153940 154022 153795 153172
    Labor Force 2011 153250 153302 153392 153420 153700 153409 153358 153674 154004 154057 153937 153887
    Labor Force 2012 154395 154871 154707 154365 155007 155163 155013 154645 155053 155641 155319 155511
    Labor Force 2013 155654 155524 155028 155238 155658 155835 155798 155486 155559 154839

    You want me to take responsibility exactly for what, Obama's disastrous economic policies?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    You don't live here by yourself.

    If all three branches of government approve a law, and the majority of the voters approve of those approvals, then you gotta live with it. That's what being part of a Republic is all about.

    Why do you hate America?
    Then let's get back to slavery.

    Obamacare is unconstitutional even if tyrants from all three branches of government approved it. Voters never voted for an amendment that would allow such a monstrous thing to happen as did happen. You are mistaken.

    If we are not going to follow the constitutional limits let's just declare that we are no longer a Constitutional Republic and let the revolution begin.

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