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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    17.1 trillion debt
    How much of Obama's add-on has come from interest on debt before Obama??no problem.
    High unemployment,
    44 straight months of private sector job growth, all pooh-poohed by the rightists.. no problem
    Are you a racist because you support Obama only because he is black?
    Today's GOP posters calling someone a racist, which I'm not allowed to do by the rules .
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    Monday makes seven weeks for ACA, and the beginning of another week of worse than nothing from the House GOP, since they are in session..
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Nothing but rhetoric from you, certainly no substance. You see, results don't matter. .
    More cryptic insulting by conservative, no problem as he would say..
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    Repeal =/= phase out.

    At least, unless you mean "repeal it in such a way that it is phased out". and then you need specifics.

    Either give those specifics or agree you mean repeal as in "quit cold turkey".
    I think it should be eliminated in as expedient a manner as possible.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    I think it should be eliminated in as expedient a manner as possible.
    Then, IMO, the term "phased" has no place in any statement of yours regarding what should be done. As it denotes a gradual change, or at least not instant.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    I would repeal it.
    at once? For all?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Repeal =/= phase out.

    At least, unless you mean "repeal it in such a way that it is phased out". and then you need specifics.

    Either give those specifics or agree you mean repeal as in "quit cold turkey".
    Yes indeed. Lets see those specifics.

    Is this something that he would do today? Next year? Over ten years? Over twenty years?

    Will nobody collect who has already paid in? Will some collect who have already paid in? Will all collect who have begun to pay in?

    The devil is always in the details and we need to see them.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How much of Obama's add-on has come from interest on debt before Obama??no problem.

    44 straight months of private sector job growth, all pooh-poohed by the rightists.. no problem

    Today's GOP posters calling someone a racist, which I'm not allowed to do by the rules .
    Wow, you really have no understanding of the budget or how it works, do you? Bush didn't have any debt service on the trillions he inherited, did he?

    44 straight months of job growth and we still are 3 million less than when the recession began?

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNS12000000
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Years: 1980 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143150 143457 143741 143761 144089 144353 144202 144625 144815 145314 145534 145970
    2007 146028 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
    2008 146397 146157 146108 146130 145929 145738 145530 145196 145059 144792 144078 143328
    2009 142187 141660 140754 140654 140294 140003 139891 139458 138775 138401 138607 137968
    2010 138500 138665 138836 139306 139340 139137 139139 139338 139344 139072 138937 139220
    2011 139330 139551 139764 139628 139808 139385 139450 139754 140107 140297 140614 140790
    2012 141608 142019 142020 141934 142302 142448 142250 142164 142974 143328 143277 143305
    2013 143322 143492 143286 143579 143898 144058 144285 144170 143568
    When will those shovels ever arrive for those shovel ready jobs from the stimulus in February 2009?

    Now answer the question, is it racist to support Obama simply because he is black?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    at once? For all?
    I would suggest that we allow anyone to opt out, and if they opt out they would receive in retirement no more than the amount the had already paid in up to the time they opted out.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So, Kobie, you asked a question and I answered it. What say you now or are you truly an Obamabot who runs when challenged and proven wrong? Obama approval rating according to Gallup is 40%. Real Clear has all the polls at a little over 41%. That 41% seems to be the people who don't care about results and simply buy rhetoric. You appear to be in that group

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What good is all the growth when the end result is a crash which ruined the economy for a decade? You cons never cease to amaze me though. I actually found one who is defending Bush's job with the economy.
    What good is economic growth? It destroys liberalism and makes people less dependent on govt. What you fail to recognize is the part that govt. spending played in the Obama economic growth numbers. That spending was offset by the debt created, debt due to too much spending and too few of taxpayers. Noticed that you ran from the numbers so I am going to post them again

    2001-32o billion
    2002-350 billion
    2003-360 billion
    2004-530 billion
    2005-760 billion
    2006-870 billion
    2007-630 billion

    2008-240 billion


    Notice anything about the time the GOP policies ran the Congress and the country? Has the light bulb gone off yet as it relates to Congressional responsibility and results?

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