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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This is at least the second time I have asked you what you proposed to do with a so called "problem" that you identify in the American system. Both times you really have nothing to offer.
    Did you not see my proposed solution? It was to eliminate the program.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Counting people who are not allowed to vote as 3/5ths a person helped the South who would otherwise not have been allowed to count the slaves at all.

    the southern states wanted to count blacks as 1 person for representation, but they also did not want to pay the cost in taxes for a full person....the northern states stated if they are 1 person they cannot be slaves.

    the south stated they were property, a compromise was reached on 3/5ths.

    if slaves would have been counted as 1 person, representation of the house would have been domination by the southern states, and many things of our history would be different.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The 3/5th's were for negroes for the purpose of the census Indians not at all. Women were not allowed to vote, but were counted s people.

    I have always Lincoln's "all men are created equal" as being the biggest lie ever by a politician.

    Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    haymarket, you have a bad reputation on the forum, many people know it.

    you have no ability to answer simple questions with one word.
    If you had a point - you would have made it.

    And just to let you in on the joke - I used to teach sixth graders my first year of teaching so i know darn well about the silly type of YES OR NO YOU HAVE TO SAY ONE OR THE OTHER tactics such children use.

    I was onto you from the start of your question EB.

    here you are in 358


    do you want me to make you look bad again.....yes or no...?

    that is what kids do EB. You have to answer yes or no. You have to cause I say you do cause I laid a trap for you and I wanna see it sprung so I can look sooooo cooool. nanananana . And the whole time you sit back thinking you have won some great victory because if I say YES - then you jump up and down in glee claiming that I just admitted you already have made me look bad. And if I say NO you still jump up and down claiming that I am a coward and no longer want to look bad and just admitted that I did.

    Its rather easy to see through EB and anybody who ever taught sixth graders can see it a mile away.

    But it certainly exposes what you think are clever tactics in debate.

    And speaking of debate - I did so for two years in college and nobody ever tried to pull silly kid stuff like that. Nobody.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Did you not see my proposed solution? It was to eliminate the program.
    You did say you would phase it out but when I pressed you for the details......... and the devil is always in the details .......... you backed away.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you had a point - you would have made it.

    And just to let you in on the joke - I used to teach sixth graders my first year of teaching so i know darn well about the silly type of YES OR NO YOU HAVE TO SAY ONE OR THE OTHER tactics such children use.

    I was onto you from the start of your question EB.

    here you are in 358





    that is what kids do EB. You have to answer yes or no. And the whole time you sit back thinking you have won some great victory because if I say YES - then you jump up and down in glee claiming that I just admitted you already have made me look bad. And if I say NO you still jump up and down claiming that I am a coward and no longer want to look bad and just admitted that I did.

    Its rather easy to see through EB and anybody who ever taught sixth graders can see it a mile away.

    But it certainly exposes what you think are clever tactics in debate.

    And speaking of debate - I did so for two years in college and nobody ever tried to pull silly kid stuff like that. Nobody.

    hmmmmm. only a re-post of post 381

    if you wish to talk with me about constitutional issues, that is fine, i welcome it, however your justification to repute my statements about your MO.....does not move me.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    hmmmmm. only a re-post of post 381
    You missed the new material..... go back and read it again..... and truth does not need to change.

    But if I am wrong - just tell us why it was so important for you to keep pressing to answer your yes or no question that was set up dishonestly to try and make me look bad either way?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You missed the new material..... go back and read it again..... and truth does not need to change.
    truth, hmmmmm. i never saw with you....since your constantly dodging, it cant apply itself to you.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. They would have been counted as whole people for representation. You are mistaken. But I can be convinced. Show me from the historical arguments.
    My bad. THe North did not want to count slaves as people at all. THe South wanted them counted, but also enslaved. So, the compromise counting them as 60% was reached.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    truth, hmmmmm. i never saw with you....since your constantly dodging, it cant apply itself to you.
    If you missed the new material its not my fault but yours.
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