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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I agree. It was those Republican economic policies which made the inevatability of certain elements of the welfare state necessary in the first place. When people can only see pure ideology and ignore the practical effects of their policies - they are very poor politicians indeed.
    Please point out those policies. Dems were in control of the House for 40 years, starting in 1954. The Great Society was implemented in the 1960's.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Please point out those policies. Dems were in control of the House for 40 years, starting in 1954. The Great Society was implemented in the 1960's.
    Yup. And the move to the elements of the welfare state began after the Great Depression hit in 1929 with Republicans firmly in control rpeaching unrestrained capitalism producing its inevitable winners and losers.

    With the USA as a strong Christian nation- it was part of the very Gilded Age ethic which created the modern Republican Party that you are going to have losers. The only remaining question is what do we do with the losers --- especially when there are so many of them? When you have a third of the nation - il fed, ill housed, ill clothed and without proper medical care it is a recipe that we know only too well what dish it produces. The French found that out. Russian found that out. And we did not want it to happen here so we adopted elements of the welfare state as pacification for the lower classes to prevent revolution and destruction of the system and the wealthy.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it seems to be a contest of who is disliked/distrusted the least.
    Yes it is. Politicians for the most part have stopped trying to convince people why they are the best and instead focus more on why the other person is worse.

    Yeah. Except that a wide majority favors the current Republican bill to limit abortion past 20 weeks to rape, incest, and life-of-the-mother, and women and hispanics are more likely to support it.
    I don't think a wide majority favors that in the country, maybe a state, but not the country. So as you pointed out earlier, just because the majority think something, doesn't mean it's the right or correct thing to do.

    I never said the majority in some state isn't socially conservative, I said the country is not a majority of social conservatives.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yup. And the move to the elements of the welfare state began after the Great Depression hit in 1929 with Republicans firmly in control rpeaching unrestrained capitalism producing its inevitable winners and losers.

    With the USA as a strong Christian nation- it was part of the very Gilded Age ethic which created the modern Republican Party that you are going to have losers. The only remaining question is what do we do with the losers --- especially when there are so many of them? When you have a third of the nation - il fed, ill housed, ill clothed and without proper medical care it is a recipe that we know only too well what dish it produces. The French found that out. Russian found that out. And we did not want it to happen here so we adopted elements of the welfare state as pacification for the lower classes to prevent revolution and destruction of the system and the wealthy.
    Your post is so typical of liberalism where all you have to do is throw money at the problem. Any idea how much of the federal budget is spent on social issues? Where are the examples of the Federal Govt. solving a social problem? You seem to fail to understand that this country was founded on the principles of neighbor helping neighbor and that neighbor was never intended to be a 3.5 trillion dollar Federal Govt. When are you going to hold liberalism accountable for their failures?

    You really don't seem to understand our economy at all. This isn't a zero sum economy but rather a very flexible growing economy where the pie gets bigger and all have equal opportunity. You prefer to promote the victim mentality where the actual victim has nothing to do with their plight. That couldn't be further from the truth and until you stop patronizing individuals who choose to fail and stop just throwing money at the problem you are never going to generate the promised liberals results but you will create a permanent dependent class keeping liberals in power administering those programs. Guess that creates a job for you for life.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yup. And the move to the elements of the welfare state began after the Great Depression hit in 1929 with Republicans firmly in control rpeaching unrestrained capitalism producing its inevitable winners and losers.

    With the USA as a strong Christian nation- it was part of the very Gilded Age ethic which created the modern Republican Party that you are going to have losers. The only remaining question is what do we do with the losers --- especially when there are so many of them? When you have a third of the nation - il fed, ill housed, ill clothed and without proper medical care it is a recipe that we know only too well what dish it produces. The French found that out. Russian found that out. And we did not want it to happen here so we adopted elements of the welfare state as pacification for the lower classes to prevent revolution and destruction of the system and the wealthy.
    Russia 1929 hmmmm, ...i bet Russia was just a freedom loving bastion, of happy, educated, healthy individuals who truly loved their RULER...

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    are these the same polls that said Romney was ahead In the presidential race?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes it is. Politicians for the most part have stopped trying to convince people why they are the best and instead focus more on why the other person is worse.
    Yup. And (currently, generically) the parties appear to be tied.

    I don't think a wide majority favors that in the country, maybe a state, but not the country.
    Americans Favor Restricting Abortion at 20 Weeks by a Margin of 56 to 27%
    Hispanics, Women, Young People Most Likely to Support 20-Week Limit on Abortion



    So as you pointed out earlier, just because the majority think something, doesn't mean it's the right or correct thing to do.
    True. The rape and incest caveats are without logical support. However, you weren't speaking to the rightness of a policy, you were arguing that the policy was politically harmful.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I don't care why your party split the vote. Losing serves you all right.

    The Dems got their **** together. They consolidated voters from Blue dogs to progressives. The GOP is too busy purging "RINOs" and infighting.

    Welcome to electoral hell. If McAulife winning does nothing else, it should, at the very least, show you you're there.
    Yeah, well, back here on earth the Republicans will retain the House and have a good shot at taking the Senate. And Hillary is by no means a shoe in.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your post is so typical of liberalism where all you have to do is throw money at the problem. Any idea how much of the federal budget is spent on social issues? Where are the examples of the Federal Govt. solving a social problem?
    What makes you think that was the goal?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Russia 1929 hmmmm, ...i bet Russia was just a freedom loving bastion, of happy, educated, healthy individuals who truly loved their RULER...
    Which has nothing at all to do with my post that you were pretending to reply to.
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