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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    The Constitution was amended to add race as a civil right. you seem to forget that just like you forget basic civics as well as history showing the foundation upon which this country was built. Seems you want to eliminate 50 independent states and make one large central govt. providing for everything you want. Is that really your goal? If it weren't for liberalism maybe those blue states would have more cash
    Personally, I'd prefer to lose a dozen states, all of them South of I-40. But, other than that, I'm not the one griping about the government doing its job like you wingnuts.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I was not making a statement of fact, I was asking a question.

    Was the constitution specific in its definition of a slave? Was it being colorblind in its definition?
    i give you praise any way, because you knew there were, i believe Washington had whites slaves working for him.

    as to whites being counted has 3/5ths i have not researched this.

    but remember that the 3/5ths is not about racism, its about taxes and representation.

    people dont want to pay taxes, but they want as much representation as they can get.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What in heavens name are you talking about?
    oh,.....that same old tired line.....where is chuck71 when you need him, to witness this?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    i give you praise any way, because you knew there were, i believe Washington had whites slaves working for him.

    as to whites being counted has 3/5ths i have not researched this.

    but remember that the 3/5ths is not about racism, its about taxes and representation.

    people dont want to pay taxes, but they want as much representation as they can get.
    That 3/5ths intent was about representation, but you have admit that it was also used by certain people who actually believed in racial superiority and objected to giving slaves their freedom.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That 3/5ths intent was about representation, but you have admit that it was also used by certain people who actually believed in racial superiority and objected to giving slaves their freedom.
    Three fifths was a way for southerners to have their cake and eat it too. They got additional representation without having to acknowledge the full humanity of their slaves.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That 3/5ths intent was about representation, but you have admit that it was also used by certain people who actually believed in racial superiority and objected to giving slaves their freedom.
    i believe the estimate during the founding was about 2 million whites in america, with about 750,000 slaves.......but dont quote that figure

    since slavery at that time being a southern institution, it would have meant the south paying most of the governments funding, and given the south a great amount of representation in the house if the clause had not been put into the constitution.

    yes there were people who thought themselves racially superior, and those not needed to be controlled, they were not exclusive in their thoughts........times have not changed, we have people who believe their are intellectually superior today, and believe they should decide for the rest of us, using the power of government to do it.

    the agenda has not changed ..

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    Personally, I'd prefer to lose a dozen states, all of them South of I-40. But, other than that, I'm not the one griping about the government doing its job like you wingnuts.
    I live in a state that if it were a nation would be around number 11 in GDP and one that is quite sustainable on its own but I don't propose nor support secession nor do I support the massive Central govt that apparently you do. Wonder how that will change however if a Republican was in the WH and what exactly were the cries when Bush was in power about the excessive power of the Federal Govt?

    Fortunately only people like you believe that a govt. that has created a 17 trillion dollar debt is doing its job and apparently that is 40% today. What I have seen from you is someone who really doesn't understand the history of this country nor the foundation that made this country great and it wasn't liberalism. Rather telling how people like you have no concept as to the role of the Federal Govt.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    I haven't decided yet. But the goal would be for it to eventually be eliminated.
    This is at least the second time I have asked you what you proposed to do with a so called "problem" that you identify in the American system. Both times you really have nothing to offer.

    Please do not change a thing. I have learned to love the right leaning conservatives and libertarians who really do nothing to advance their agenda other than use these forums as some sort of internet aping of the Jehovah's Witnesses going door to door to proselytize about their "beliefs". But in this case, they don't even get the one on one face time so their message is even less powerful.

    The people I worry about are the warriors of the right who actually have what they believe to be solutions and are out there advocating for them and doing the nuts and bolts work in the real life political arena to get them enacted into law. Those are the people I concern myself with as being dangerous.

    The ones who think the internet is the way to brainwash the masses into turning themselves into Randroids are laughable by comparison.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh,.....that same old tired line.....where is chuck71 when you need him, to witness this?
    Thank you for showing that you have no idea what you are talking about either.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for showing that you have no idea what you are talking about either.
    oh i was seen, its just your usual, MO...[MODE OF OPERATION]

    what are you talking about?

    i dont understand what you mean?

    and others you use.....just ask chuck71, he has already pointed it out.

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