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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Except that is NOT the point of issue. The actual point is your own particular far right extremist interpretation of the powers of Congress.
    that is exactly the point, you believe the USSC can interpret the constitution and Madison....... cannot .

    even thought Madison, was involved in about every stage of the construction of the constitution , .......and since a person as Madison was involve so heavily in its construction, its not opinion........ it is fact.

    so i am not putting my view across ......i am using Madison's view, ...as i have provided many times, so you referring to ---------->James Madison position on the constitution as ........... far right extremist interpretation.

    your the one, who said James Madison has his head up his backside!.......

    are you going to say that people knew "gone with the wind" better than Margret Mitchell? since it was her creation.

    no one knows ones creation ...better than its creator.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sorry EB. Congress after Congress after Congress does not agree with you.

    Sorry EB. President after President after President does not agree with you.

    Sorry EB but Supreme Court after Supreme Court after Supreme Court does not agree with you.

    Your position seems to have you pretty much isolated way out there on the edge of a very long branch.
    the federal government, stepped outside of the constitution long before you and i were never born, and committed unconstitutional acts.

    no where does the federal government have authority in our life's, liberty or property.


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    The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.

    The former [federal government] will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

    The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course you feel that way because using the Constitution simply drives yet another nail in the coffin for your far right extremist arguments.
    no..i just think you a VERY dishonest poster.

    YOU stated i needed to read the constitution, ................so your focus was on the document itself..

    when i told i had read it, you wanted to know what i had learned from it, which i believe supported my position.

    i stated to you what that was, ....and Thomas Jefferson backed up what i had to say.......THEN you abandoned the constitution which you initially focused on and ran to the USSC .

    your continued sleight of hand tricks are tiresome, and prove, the points made about you in the basement.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Taxation does not mean that no constitutional federal power is then required to spend that money.
    I don't see your point. Are you claiming that the federal government is spending money without authority to Constitutionally do so?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I don't see your point. Are you claiming that the federal government is spending money without authority to Constitutionally do so?
    Yes. The federal department of education is a prime example - there is no mention of education as a constitutional federal power.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yes. The federal department of education is a prime example - there is no mention of education as a constitutional federal power.
    Typical libertarian drivel: "The government has no right to provide citizens with an education."

    I bet you feel the same way about roads, bridges, rails, airports, and providing food for the poor. You probably also think an energy policy, environmental regulations and the monetary system are the result of a socialist conspiracy.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yes. The federal department of education is a prime example - there is no mention of education as a constitutional federal power.
    Of course the Department of education has been operating for 34 years now and one would think that is more than ample time for someone to make a legal challenge and get it before the Court. I also note that during the span we have had Presidents Reagan, and two Presidents Bush - all of whom opposed it but did nothing about it.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Typical libertarian drivel: "The government has no right to provide citizens with an education."

    I bet you feel the same way about roads, bridges, rails, airports, and providing food for the poor. You probably also think an energy policy, environmental regulations and the monetary system are the result of a socialist conspiracy.
    he did not say that, you need to read more careful.....he is what he said "The federal department of education is a prime example - there is no mention of education as a constitutional federal power.

    education is a state power, not a federal power.

    most of the other things you espouse are also not constitutional powers either.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Typical libertarian drivel: "The government has no right to provide citizens with an education."

    I bet you feel the same way about roads, bridges, rails, airports, and providing food for the poor. You probably also think an energy policy, environmental regulations and the monetary system are the result of a socialist conspiracy.
    You continue to show how lacking our education system is today as you ignore the role of the state and local government as well as the purpose of the various taxes we pay. What exactly are you doing to do your share in taking care of the poor, giving your money to a bureaucrat to do it for you?

    Roads, bridges, rails, airports, and providing food for the poor is mostly funded by state and local taxes except for the interstate highway system which is funded by Federal excise taxes on petroleum products purchased by the users of those infrastructure items. When will you ever learn the role of the govt. as well as what your taxes fund?

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I've got no problem with that sort of approach, but that's not what we have right now. And the Left doesn't want to change anything, that's my main gripe.
    Some folks here accuse me of being on the left. So your claim is not altogether true.
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