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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What makes you think that was the goal?
    PRECISELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that's why we oppose it. It doesn't solve problems, it just maintains them and creates new ones.



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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Charles Krauthammer: Why liberals are panicked about Obamacare - The Washington Post

    I agree with Krauthammer partially, except that the Democrats will not go down and that big a defeat if at all, because at least half the citizenry is that stupid.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    PRECISELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that's why we oppose it. It doesn't solve problems, it just maintains them and creates new ones.
    Additionally, it violates all the rules of common decency for one person to tell another person a) that they MUST insure their own health, and 2) what sort of insurance they must purchase.

    I hold that people have a moral right to decide this matters for themselves, and it is a violation of this right to force them to do the above. I consider it an immoral law, and oppose it on those grounds.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    The point is that is these programs didn't require a budget deficit, then there would be no budget deficit.
    Are you saying that the social welfare programs you do not favor require a budget deficit to exist while other programs in the budget do not require a budget deficit?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well for one...... the constitution states plainly, who the congress has authority over, it list them in the constitution.

    pirates -------To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;:.....

    counterfeiters ---To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;...

    traitors ---The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

    tax cheats--the 16th amendment.....personal income tax

    other than those 4 things, the congress [legislative branch] has no authority over the american citizen, in any other capacity...as also stated by Thomas Jefferson:

    That the Constitution of the United States having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the laws of nations, and no other crimes whatever; and it being true, as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared "that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people,"
    And I ask you one more time:

    can you point to a single US Supreme Court decision in the last 200 plus years which agrees with your interpretation of the powers of Congress as you so described them here?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    PRECISELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that's why we oppose it. It doesn't solve problems, it just maintains them and creates new ones.



    Your confession is accepted.
    And in your mind with your own belief system and your own adopted realities - is it your opinion that there is nothing in between the two opposite ends on the continuum..... solving the problem 100% or not solving the problem and doing nothing?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You'll do anything to defend your hero. Why does conservatism create such devotion in it's followers? Why do results only matter to you when it's Obama, but Bush's results get sugarcoated and -- "blame the Democrats."

    How's that red Kool-Aid?
    Results always matter, the problem is you don't understand how to research actual results. I have posted the Bush results but you continue to buy what you are told. Suggest bls.gov, bea.gov, and the U.S. Treasury and maybe you wouldn't continue to make a fool out of yourself.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And I ask you one more time:

    can you point to a single US Supreme Court decision in the last 200 plus years which agrees with your interpretation of the powers of Congress as you so described them here?

    your really stumbling over yourself early today!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YOu need to read your actual Constitution and put down the opinions of mere individuals .
    ..post 114

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i have read it......its hard isn't it when you have to argue against the founders, and you know your on the losing side...as you always are.
    ..post 213

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what did you find it in that you believe proves you correct?
    ...217

    IN post 217 you stated what did i find in the Constitution that leads me to be believe i an correct.

    i then showed you what i found in the constitution, and Jefferson even confirms what i found!

    NOW you switch, and want to know what the court says..........when you asked i what i found ...what the constitution says......your switching and sleight of hand action games, are a very poor attempt to confuse the other readers of the forum.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you saying that the social welfare programs you do not favor require a budget deficit to exist while other programs in the budget do not require a budget deficit?
    No. I'm saying that the inclusion of these programs, ceteris parabus, requires a massive deficit.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is certainly the feeling one is beginning to get and time is running short to do anything about it.


    Don't kid yourself.

    I keep thinking about those montage type comedy skits where a lover displays mock outrage and then shrugs with a wry smile, shakes their head like they just can't stay mad and hugs the object of affection.

    That is what is happening with the MSM and the Big 0 right now.

    They got their man elected and now are giving him a fair review in the reports on the turkey of a healthcare bill.

    'Round about summer they will shrug and hug and he will once again be the Golden Boy. They won't be able to help themselves.
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