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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Come on already. SCREAMING means complaining and not being happy with the situation,. And I strongly suspect you know damn well that is what it means. And I provided ample evidence of that on behalf of Republicans.
    'Screaming' is unnecessary and cliched hyperbole, there was no individual named, and no, you didn't.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You do understand how taxes work? Yes, it is theft by a few who use it to buy power from the many.

    You do understand how government spending works?
    Absolutely - its a SNAFU

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YOu need to read your actual Constitution and put down the opinions of mere individuals .
    i have read it......its hard isn't it when you have to argue against the founders, and you know your on the losing side...as you always are.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is true that ALL programs contribute to the over all budget bottom line. When anybody singles out a certain program or type of program and ignores the other and the effect they also have contributing to both spending and the deficit, they are engaging in intellectual dishonesty.

    here was your statement in your own 168

    The reality is that the federal government takes in enough to cover these programs without running a debt or deficit. Of course, that would mean significant and draconian cuts in other areas of the budget. And to take that position would be just as dishonest as yours singling out charity programs for blame in massive deficit spending.
    Talk to me when these programs can be paid for with no federal budget deficit. Maybe then you'll have a point.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    'Screaming' is unnecessary and cliched hyperbole, there was no individual named, and no, you didn't.
    thats baloney and you know it. And you should be ashamed for asking for evidence - getting it in spades - then trying to pull this nonsense.

    And where did I allege it was specific individuals? I said REPUBLICANS and I gave you evidence of that both in the general public and in the Congress. It seems that you read somethings into my statement that were not there...... or ..... you intentionally asked for something knowing I did not allege it.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    Talk to me when these programs can be paid for with no federal budget deficit. Maybe then you'll have a point.
    The point that all government spending must be considered as contributing to the budget and its bottom line is simply fact and a point beyond dispute.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i have read it......its hard isn't it when you have to argue against the founders, and you know your on the losing side...as you always are.
    So what did you find it in that you believe proves you correct?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Absolutely - its a SNAFU
    From your comments it did not seem you knew the purpose and scope of taxation.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The point that all government spending must be considered as contributing to the budget and its bottom line is simply fact and a point beyond dispute.
    The point is that is these programs didn't require a budget deficit, then there would be no budget deficit.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what did you find it in that you believe proves you correct?
    well for one...... the constitution states plainly, who the congress has authority over, it list them in the constitution.

    pirates -------To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;:.....

    counterfeiters ---To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;...

    traitors ---The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

    tax cheats--the 16th amendment.....personal income tax

    other than those 4 things, the congress [legislative branch] has no authority over the american citizen, in any other capacity...as also stated by Thomas Jefferson:

    That the Constitution of the United States having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the laws of nations, and no other crimes whatever; and it being true, as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared "that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people,"

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