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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    or apologize and repent for your dishonest fraud.
    Everyone is tired of that routine. Your request for evidence will never be satisfied. My opinion is presented, in response and against your claim. Enjoy the rest of your debate.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    The Sequester: Absolutely everything you could possibly need to know, in one FAQ

    according to this source the amount is less than one-fifth of the cuts I am proposing
    I wouldn't trust Dylan Matthews as far as I can throw him.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wouldn't trust Dylan Matthews as far as I can throw him.
    that is your right. Then feel free to present your own data from a different source and I will be happy to examine it.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I see lots of screaming about it including Republicans who want to protect their favorite programs.

    Obviously we are not paying enough as I read daily on this very site all the vitriol about the deficit an debt. So lets pay our bills. I suggest a program of seriously cutting spending on the one side of the ledger while raising revenues on the other side of the ledger. Is there a third column I do not know about?
    Then perhaps you should name these Republicans.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Everyone is tired of that routine. Your request for evidence will never be satisfied. My opinion is presented, in response and against your claim. Enjoy the rest of your debate.


    Good day.
    Do you wish me a good day, or mean that it is a good day whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this day; or that it is a day to be good on?

    As for the "routine" - yes, I fully realize that asking you and some others who also employ your dishonest tactics to actually produce my positions via actual quotes is indeed more than you can handle. But I will continue to do it and you will continue to be woefully impotent to produce them. My two years in college debate trained me to insist of this level of proof.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then perhaps you should name these Republicans.
    this provides evidence of my claim that Republicans are also screaming about the sequester cuts

    After the Cuts Hit Them, 68% of Republicans Disapprove of Sequester

    One consistency among conservatives is that the things they champion often change when they have to live it. So it is with the sequester cuts. According to a new poll released Friday by ABC News and The Washington Post, Republicans are 14% more likely to say they’ve been hurt by the cuts than Democrats, and of those who have, 68% disapprove of them. Those Republicans who have not been hurt only disapprove by 42%.
    here is more from the Wall Street Journal

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...43873007691030

    and more

    http://freebeacon.com/mckeon-for-the-defense/

    there is ample evidence to support my statement.
    Last edited by haymarket; 11-15-13 at 12:34 PM.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    Deficits didn't matter as much when the debt was less than 60% of GDP, it exceeds 100% of GDP today and you don't seem to understand the problems that creates. Glad to hear that people like you now support Dick Cheney though as apparently you believe that authorizes the Federal Govt. to put Bush spending on steroids.
    If you're worried so much about the deficit, your hero should not be Bush or Cheney. They very much pushed the deficit and continued the disastrous deficit spending that's been going on for as long as I can remember. I won't defend Obama's record on the deficit, but clearly Bush did plenty of deficit all by himself.

    If you are, as you say, worried about the deficit, why is Bush your hero? Defending him by saying he's "Not as bad as Obama" is really dumb.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wouldn't trust Dylan Matthews as far as I can throw him.
    Questioning the source. I believe that's called deflection when Liberals do it.


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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have already explained that to you. All government spending contributes to the deficit. To single out one program and pretend that it is the cause while ignoring the others is basically intellectually dishonest.
    It is a fact that these programs require massive deficit spending, so my statement was perfectly true.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    It is a fact that these programs require massive deficit spending, so my statement was perfectly true.
    It is true that ALL programs contribute to the over all budget bottom line. When anybody singles out a certain program or type of program and ignores the other and the effect they also have contributing to both spending and the deficit, they are engaging in intellectual dishonesty.

    here was your statement in your own 168

    The failure of administering something as personal as charity at the federal level is evidenced by the massive deficit spending required to do so.
    The reality is that the federal government takes in enough to cover these programs without running a debt or deficit. Of course, that would mean significant and draconian cuts in other areas of the budget. And to take that position would be just as dishonest as yours singling out charity programs for blame in massive deficit spending.
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