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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As you know, the so called right of an individual NOT to have health insurance is often a cost passed on to the larger citizenry.
    And why is that? Could it be that people like you have eliminated the consequences for poor choices? The cost of the uninsured is paid for by the people of the state not the national taxpayers thus making it a state problem. Personal responsibility is a lost trait in today's liberal world.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    Not really. Establishing a policy in which the federal government doesn't rob Peter to pay Paul doesn't require the elimination of taxes. It simply requires the government to stop paying Paul.
    To follow your idea, the government would then not spend any money which does not benefit every citizen equally.
    How would you even begin to attempt to achieve such an impossibility?
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    And why is that? Could it be that people like you have eliminated the consequences for poor choices? The cost of the uninsured is paid for by the people of the state not the national taxpayers thus making it a state problem. Personal responsibility is a lost trait in today's liberal world.
    We are a Christian based nation which will not allow people to be hit with the consequences of their own actions. It matters not if you or I do not approve of it. It is simply the way it is.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    We always have a President who is violating the law by changing it, choosing which part to implement an which part not, giving exemptions in a clear violation of the Constitution that haymarket claims to support. Like far too many haymarket supports only the parts he agrees with and ignores the rest.
    Besides, even if it were allowed under the constitution (which, in my opinion, it isn't), that doesn't mean it MUST be done.

    It's a vicious and unethical policy, and ought not be law, whether or not it is allowed.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    To follow your idea, the government would then not spend any money which does not benefit every citizen equally.
    How would you even begin to attempt to achieve such an impossibility?
    No, that's not what I said. What I said was for the federal government to not write checks to Paul.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We are a Christian based nation which will not allow people to be hit with the consequences of their own actions. It matters not if you or I do not approve of it. It is simply the way it is.
    Exactly and that is why this country was built on neighbor helping neighbor with that neighbor not being the massive federal bureaucracy. What liberalism has done is create people like you who believe more in spending in the NAME of compassion vs. getting actual compassionate results. A 17 plus trillion dollar debt isn't compassionate results especially when the number of people dependent on the govt. continues to grow.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    A 17 plus trillion dollar debt isn't compassionate results especially when the number of people dependent on the govt. continues to grow.
    Detrimental to the general welfare, as I said before.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    No, that's not what I said. What I said was for the federal government to not write checks to Paul.
    Checks... cash ... services ... food cards ...... contracts ..... entitlements ..... its all money collected from people and going to people. To pretend otherwise is simply denial of reality.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    Exactly and that is why this country was built on neighbor helping neighbor with that neighbor not being the massive federal bureaucracy. What liberalism has done is create people like you who believe more in spending in the NAME of compassion vs. getting actual compassionate results. A 17 plus trillion dollar debt isn't compassionate results especially when the number of people dependent on the govt. continues to grow.
    A Christian nation will not allow what you claim we should do.

    And - as you know from our discussion in the past - I DO NOT approve of the deficit and the debt and want us to stop digging and start climbing out of the hole.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We are a Christian based nation which will not allow people to be hit with the consequences of their own actions. It matters not if you or I do not approve of it. It is simply the way it is.

    When as a liberal did you come to have this epiphany?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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