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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    One in which the federal government doesn't rob Peter to pay Paul. Such a policy serves the needs of Paul at the expense of the general welfare.
    Which would abolish taxation.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

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    Which would abolish taxation.
    No it wouldn't.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    And, like with women, your party is driving away those Hispanic Conservatives with its war on immigration. As the D shifts further Right, the R loses more and more voters.

    Look at the list you drove away:the poor, the educated, gays, women, youth, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews...even Catholics. Who other than aging white males do the GOP have left?
    The Hispanics seem to support he rule of law more than you do. I posted the map for the 2012 election which doesn't even come close to showing what you want to believe.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What healthcare policy is right for the individual
    And that is what the managed health care plan is doing.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    No it wouldn't.
    The very nature of taxation is to take from one and provide some government program or service to another. What you describe as the peter and paul situation.

    The very essence of taxation is to take money from one person, and the government then redistributes it in some fashion.
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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And that is what the managed health care plan is doing.
    Right, and that isn't the role of the govt. How can the part of choice which you always promote now ignore the individuals right to choose their own policy or in some cases prove NOT to purchase insurance.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The very nature of taxation is to take from one and provide some government program or service to another. What you describe as the peter and paul situation.

    The very essence of taxation is to take money from one person, and the government then redistributes it in some fashion.
    Not really. Establishing a policy in which the federal government doesn't rob Peter to pay Paul doesn't require the elimination of taxes. It simply requires the government to stop paying Paul.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, and that isn't the role of the govt. How can the part of choice which you always promote now ignore the individuals right to choose their own policy or in some cases prove NOT to purchase insurance.
    I know of no standard of common decency where it is ethical to tell another person what sort of insurance he may or may not buy. As such, the law is unethical and ought to be eliminated, as it violates each person's moral right to make such decisions for himself.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    I know of no standard of common decency where it is ethical to tell another person what sort of insurance he may or may not buy. As such, the law is unethical and ought to be eliminated, as it violates each person's moral right to make such decisions for himself.
    We always have a President who is violating the law by changing it, choosing which part to implement an which part not, giving exemptions in a clear violation of the Constitution that haymarket claims to support. Like far too many haymarket supports only the parts he agrees with and ignores the rest.

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    Re: Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, and that isn't the role of the govt. How can the part of choice which you always promote now ignore the individuals right to choose their own policy or in some cases prove NOT to purchase insurance.
    As you know, the so called right of an individual NOT to have health insurance is often a cost passed on to the larger citizenry.
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