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It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

sorry you don't like the government facts--they will eat you up each new day and today is only day 43--
at this point with Romney care, less than 200 signed up
trfjr said:
no it doesn't all it means is some of those 106,000 have put a plan in a cart it doesn't mean they have any intention to actually arrange payment and buy the plan
I have probably over 5,000 dollars of items siting in carts all over the intent from amazon to tiger direct to newegg do I plan to buy those items probably not they are there incase I do decide so all I have to do is make arrangements to pay and ship and hit the finale accept
that figure of 106,000 is a sham
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NIMBY said:
Romney said they shouldn't be able to scofflaw on insurance their whole lives and then jump in at age 45..
And he wrote the damned law..
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First of all, Romney didn't write this law. The two laws are not even close.

Second, there is a huge difference Constitutionally between a state doing something like this, and the federal government doing this. The 10th Amendment allows states to do this.

No federal law written for the entire nation will ever work until insurance can be bought across state lines to increase competition and lower costs.

I have to respect your continual support for anything Obama. At least your consistent, even when what ever your supporting is collapsing in front of your own eyes. Good for you.
 
NIMBY said:
Romney said they shouldn't be able to scofflaw on insurance their whole lives and then jump in at age 45..
And he wrote the damned law..
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No he didn't, that's been debunked so many times.
 
Beaudreaux said:
First of all, Romney didn't write this law. The two laws are not even close.

Second, there is a huge difference Constitutionally between a state doing something like this, and the federal government doing this. The 10th Amendment allows states to do this.

No federal law written for the entire nation will ever work until insurance can be bought across state lines to increase competition and lower costs.

I have to respect your continual support for anything Obama. At least your consistent, even when what ever your supporting is collapsing in front of your own eyes. Good for you.
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then why did 36 states chose not to assert their rights and create their own exchanges and allowed the federal government to create a federally run exchange?
 
Only 26,000 have actually paid. THAT is the number. How many of these idiots signed up thinking it was free?

But the point is, Obama wants this to fail. He wants the waters so muddied that people panic and accept a single payer plan. Health insurance companies gone forever and their bankrolls converted fully into government taxes. That's the real goal.

If America needed this so bad, why aren't people flocking to it in droves?
 
NIMBY said:
Romney said they shouldn't be able to scofflaw on insurance their whole lives and then jump in at age 45..
And he wrote the damned law..
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Romney didn't write anything - not to mention his "Romneycare" was a failure - anyone who was paying attention saw that - even Romney acknowledged it was a failure.

Oh, also I love how you progressives are attempting to blame republicans for your failed Obamacare already - NICE!

If a program works its all democrats - If a program fails its all republicans fault...

Seems to be the progressive motto....

If it even matters - I would have been opposed to Romneycare as well, but I live in Illinois and understand the Tenth Amendment.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
then why did 36 states chose not to assert their rights and create their own exchanges and allowed the federal government to create a federally run exchange?
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The federal has no grant to set up those exchanges in the first place. And perhaps because those 36 states are smart enough to realise it's all an exercise in futility and are not interested in wasting the money on something their people want gone.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
then why did 36 states chose not to assert their rights and create their own exchanges and allowed the federal government to create a federally run exchange?
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Because the states have the Constitutional power to not choose to do so. The power of the states goes both ways; the power to act, or not act. If the people of a state want a program like this, their state representatives in the state legislature will enact a program. Those states chose not to participate since the majority of their citizens didn't want to participate.
 
You're the 3rd straight rightist to tap on me in a few minutes--righties are out in force with all of their anti--PPACA noise--what's it like to be against something and against the uninsured instead of being for something--what will you say when your phony outrage is proven wrong on people losing insurance ?
Mr.Nick said:
Romney didn't write anything - not to mention his "Romneycare" was a failure - anyone who was paying attention saw that - even Romney acknowledged it was a failure.

Oh, also I love how you progressives are attempting to blame republicans for your failed Obamacare already - NICE!

If a program works its all democrats - If a program fails its all republicans fault...

Seems to be the progressive motto....

If it even matters - I would have been opposed to Romneycare as well, but I live in Illinois and understand the Tenth Amendment.
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longview said:
No worries, it will go higher when people have to choose it or paying a fine.
The people whose Insurance drops them will have no choice (of Insurance, they may still choose to
pay the fine instead of buying insurance.)
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The IRS lacks the authority to force people to pay the fine. All they can do is take it from peoples refund or send them nasty letters.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Romney didn't write anything - not to mention his "Romneycare" was a failure - anyone who was paying attention saw that - even Romney acknowledged it was a failure.
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while Romney was governor, Romney said his Care was a success--which is it with you guys--have you seen the polls on romneyCare lately--how many days does PPACA get before it is pronounced a failure??on day 43, things look even better--think Kentucky Mr. Nick..
 
Henrin said:
The IRS lacks the authority to force people to pay the fine. All they can do is take it from peoples refund or send them nasty letters.
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You've got your Rush Limbaugh points down, I'm impressed !!
 
Henrin said:
The IRS lacks the authority to force people to pay the fine. All they can do is take it from peoples refund or send them nasty letters.
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And the people getting refunds are the ones that thought this would be free. That refund is their actual savings plan.
 
NIMBY said:
You're the 3rd straight rightist to tap on me in a few minutes--righties are out in force with all of their anti--PPACA noise--what's it like to be against something and against the uninsured instead of being for something--what will you say when your phony outrage is proven wrong on people losing insurance ?
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Against the uninsured? I would think forcing people to buy a service is being against them, but hey, maybe I'm new to this kind of thing.
 
NIMBY said:
How many more don't hate it??
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The ones that aren't forced to buy something they don't want? I was unaware that some people didn't matter.
 
cpgrad08 said:
Today the white house relase the enrollment numbers for the ACA and that number 106,000 out of a country of 320 million people. Obamacare can only work if it was high enrollment.
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CORRECTION: Insurance cos. will only be happy if it was high enrollment. It won't work for any patients.
 
Mr.Nick said:
If it even matters - I would have been opposed to Romneycare as well, but I live in Illinois and understand the Tenth Amendment.
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We here in Illinois don't let the 10th amendment get in the way of things like the Medicaid sign-up, a Republican idea..
Why do Republican governors block Medicaid for their uninsured poor, 2/3 of the Nation's poor??
 
SBu said:
Hello fellow Washingtonian. More accurately, 106,000 out of around 15 millionish (which I think is the targeted pool of uninsured/those insured with "inadequate" plans). Still laughably low, but I think we all expected that. Unsustainable if the numbers don't work out.
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I'm curious - since about 50 million Americans are uninsured, why would you believe only 15 million are "targeted"? Are you suggesting that the ACA is not only bad legislation, it's also inadequately bad?
 
Beaudreaux said:
I'd like to know exactly how paying the fine to the federal government is going to lower health care costs?

If young healthy people don't actually sign up and pay for the insurance, the PPACA will collapse under its own weight, and those of us that have insurance will even more money for that insurance than we already do (my premium and co-pay has gone up over 50% already). I do not look forward to seeing what my premium and co-pay will be a few years from now.

What happened to the promise that our personal medical costs would all go down by an average of $2,500.00 a year?
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Beware of Greeks/Government officials bearing gifts!
The difference is between the bait and the switch.
The ACA is about driving all Health Insurance carriers into the secondary roll of
administrating the single payer system.
The personal user costs are distant second to the primary objective of single payer.
Those words sound good in speeches, but have the same credibility as a used car salesman.
(Perhaps I am being insulting to used car salesman, but no offense is intended.)
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
considering that the administration could not deploy a major public campaign urging uninsured people to enroll for coverage, and that obamacare was not marketed heavily in the 36 states where the federal government is operating the exchanges, enrollment is probably down to all the bad press of the roll out.
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You must have graduated from the "Obama school of blame-laying". Low enrolment couldn't possibly have anything to do with the law being crap, right?
 
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