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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Look at Florida.....they are leading the Way. Rubio is toast.
    Close to 3600, I wouldn't say Rubio is toast when considering all them people Florida has. Florida is one unique state with very little native population and a bunch of snow birds from other sections of the country. Around Atlanta we have more none native Georgians living in and around than native Georgians. Of course Atlanta's politics is completely different from the rest of the state.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    I'm behind by 17 posts MMC..Obviously I don't know what I'm talking about..Why are these folks wasting their time on someone who calls Darrel Issa the crook he's always been..Thanks for the data..Now you know why Rubio is putting forth his own ACA bill..He's lost in space on immigration also .
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Look at Florida.....they are leading the Way. Rubio is toast.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If you happen on the website by accident, you signed up.
    I did go to the website. They put cookies on my computer that I had to remove !

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Looks to me like the Democrats numbers are falling:
    Generic Congressional Vote Polling Data
    Poll Date Sample Democrats Republicans Spread
    Quinnipiac 11/6 - 11/11 2545 RV 39 39 Tie
    Rasmussen Reports 11/4 - 11/10 3500 LV 41 39 Democrats +2
    PPP (D) 10/29 - 10/31 649 RV 44 38 Democrats +6
    GWU/Battleground 10/27 - 10/31 1000 LV 44 41 Democrats +3
    FOX News 10/20 - 10/22 1020 RV 45 37 Democrats +8
    CNN/Opinion Research 10/18 - 10/20 RV 50 42 Democrats +8


    Heya Beaudreau. Isnt that just Awesome.....falling like a ton of lead bricks. Worth their weight.....huh?

    It gets even Better!!!!! Fienstein will co-sponsor Landreiu's Bill. The Democrats are bailing on Obama.


    Popcorn: Democrats in Disarray, Debating Whether to Turn On Obamacare



    Bill Clinton's comments may have been the tipping point. Yesterday, the former president told an interviewer that the White House should keep its promise and honor its commitment on Obama's infamous "keep your plan" pledge. And if there's one person on planet earth whose reputation for honoring both the truth and personal commitments is -- ahem -- unimpeachable, it's him. Snark aside, Clinton's remarks were hugely impactful; not because he was expressing his own personal opinion, but because in doing so, he was extending a tacit permission slip to fellow Democrats. Message: It's okay to abandon Obama by starting to dismantle big parts of this law. His wife, who is widely expected to run for president, had no comment on the matter. And then, as these horrific poll numbers started to seep into the Washington bloodstream, the dam broke:

    Yes, that would be liberal California Democrat Dianne Feinstein pledging to co-sponsor Mary Landrieu's iteration of the GOP's "keep your plan" legislation. The House will vote on its own version on Friday, and CNN reports that even Democratic leadership is befuddled as to how members should vote. Accordingly, Friday is now the White House's "de facto deadline" to prevent perhaps dozens of House Democrats from sprinting away from the president, shattering the party's ruthless party discipline on Obamacare in the process.

    This desperation mentality is contagious, and it's exceedingly risky for Democrats. Last night's Quinnipiac poll shows public support for an Obamacare delay swelling to 73 percent. Rasmussen shows that a similar percentage believes people ought to be able to keep their existing plans, in accordance with Obama's violated vow. Will Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi give their caucuses a free pass to approve these populist "solutions"? If they don't, all hell breaks loose. If they do, and these measures pass both chambers in one form or another, what does Obama do? Vetoing any legislation along these lines will look wildly out-of-touch and unreasonable. He and his party will take another beating. But if he acquiesces under immense political pressure, he certainly must still know that the results would be non-viable. This creaky mess can't just be stopped on a dime at the very last minute; the wheels are in motion, and have been for some time. Plans have been outlawed, cancellation notices have been sent, and people have been signing up for new coverage -- either through the exchanges or Medicaid. Insurance companies have spent months preparing for the new regime; reverting back to the old system involves much, much more than flipping a switch. Whether it's even remotely possible to reverse course before December 15 (the deadline to ensure coverage starting in the new year) is up for debate.

    The House Republicans' version of this bill would trash the administration's excessive mandates for a year, allowing plans that were made illegal by the law to continue. It also makes the old plans available to everyone, not just those who were previously enrolled in them. The Landrieu/Feinstein bill limits "keep your plan" to newly-grandfathered, current and previous policy holders -- but it actually goes further in another sense. It proactively forces insurers to allow those people back onto their previous plans if they so choose (as opposed to giving insurers the option to reintroduce the cancelled plans).....snip~

    Popcorn: Democrats in Disarray, Debating Whether to Turn On Obamacare - Guy Benson
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    How about that fight over Braves stadium??
    The black mayor said no to wasting taxpayer funds and Gingrey and Kingston want to waste those funds..
    Where is the TEAparty when you need them ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Close to 3600, I wouldn't say Rubio is toast when considering all them people Florida has. Florida is one unique state with very little native population and a bunch of snow birds from other sections of the country. Around Atlanta we have more none native Georgians living in and around than native Georgians. Of course Atlanta's politics is completely different from the rest of the state.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So if you were in immediate need, what would you do??
    Well, if I got cancelled a week ago from the plan I had, and I needed chemo, I guess I'd sign up for the Hitler plan.

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i think more people will sign up as the deadline approaches.
    Right now signups seem to be running 4:1 for Medicaid instead of paid individual plans. If that trend continues then where, exactly, is the funding for this program supposed to come from? I've got one suggestion....that 3.8% surcharge on Cap Gains over $200k is going to become a surcharge on anything over $100k to include ordinary wages. Just wait, the progressives will get their 70% tax rate within 2 years.

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    [B]Heya Beaudreau

    The House Republicans' version of this bill would trash the administration's excessive mandates for a year, allowing plans that were made illegal by the law to continue. It also makes the old plans available to everyone, not just those who were previously enrolled in them. The Landrieu/Feinstein bill limits "keep your plan" to newly-grandfathered, current and previous policy holders -- but it actually goes further in another sense. It proactively forces insurers to allow those people back onto their previous plans if they so choose (as opposed to giving insurers the option to reintroduce the cancelled plans).....snip~

    Popcorn: Democrats in Disarray, Debating Whether to Turn On Obamacare - Guy Benson
    the democratic plan is better because the insurance companys should not be allowed to continue selling junk policys
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm behind by 17 posts MMC..Obviously I don't know what I'm talking about..Why are these folks wasting their time on someone who calls Darrel Issa the crook he's always been..Thanks for the data..Now you know why Rubio is putting forth his own ACA bill..He's lost in space on immigration also .
    BTW, I was serious when I said I respect your standing strong with your guy on this topic. I don't agree with you, but I do respect your dogged tenacity.

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Just ass with anything in our culture..
    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i think more people will sign up as the deadline approaches.
    Now Republicans are quibbling over how many are signed up since people are now getting through..
    One day at a time, one more insured American at a time..
    Glad you stayed online .
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