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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Today the white house relase the enrollment numbers for the ACA and that number 106,000 out of a country of 320 million people. Obamacare can only work if it was high enrollment.

    October Obamacare enrollment low - Kyle Cheney and Jason Millman - POLITICO.com
    And that # is bogus. It's the number of people that registered on the sites and said they want a plan. The number that actually have a plan is MUCH MUCH lower. As if even the false numbers they put out weren't bad enough.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    1390 in Georgia, probably almost all from the Atlanta area. Does the totals also include medicare enrollees along with those for normal health insurance plans?
    I am lookin now for Medicaid roll outs to. But do you think that part about people keeping their kids on their insurance until 26 is showing up as the problem the Democrats didn't place much significance upon?

    Also there are theses Updates.

    UPDATE II: In a conference call with reporters, Sebelius said, "The marketplace is working," and "We can reasonably expect these numbers will grow substantially over the next five months."

    UPDATE III: Naturally, the HHS enrollment site where official numbers are posted, has crashed.....snip~

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If the rollout was to take about a year before penalties became effective, you may be right - however, when people have to be signed up and receiving coverage by January 1 in order to avoid the penalty and when you need to be signed up and accepted by the first of December in order for that to be the case, I don't see how it's possible to get tens of millions more signed up in time. The lead ACA tech guy claims that the site can now handle about 25,000 people viewing and accessing at one time, that's still woefully short of what's needed to get things processed in time.
    I heard on the news today that one reason the president is standing fast on the implementation dates and will not extend the deadline is the insurance companies who went along with the ACA are really pushing the president hard against it. They need their money now, not 6 months or a year from now as they are now insuring are these folks with pre-existing condidtions which is causing them to lose money without the input of the healthy invinceables. This was reported on our 24hours news radio channel, a Cumulus broadcasting company. Not Fox. It seems to make sense, but I haven't heard any of this on the other news outlets.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    What's the actual number that actually have really enrolled in a program, around 20 K ?
    Let's see…


    http://www.grassley.senate.gov/issue...EG-11-5-13.pdf

    In DC the number is, uh… 3.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I see you are not misinformed but well informed. The numbers include those who have put it in the shopping cart but actually haven't paid and enrolled in Obamacare.

    A few days ago I heard that the Obama administration would cook the numbers and include those people who have a Obamacare plan in the shopping cart. That's what they did.

    What's the actual number that actually have really enrolled in a program, around 20 K ?

    Are there still people believing #### coming from the Obama administration ?
    Of course there are. Sycophants and ideological lemmings (on both sides) will support their side regardless.

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    And that # is bogus. It's the number of people that registered on the sites and said they want a plan. The number that actually have a plan is MUCH MUCH lower. As if even the false numbers they put out weren't bad enough.
    I just heard that the Obama administration just announced that less than 27 K have actually signed up for Obamacare using Obama's website.

    As was predicted, they lied and included those who were still shopping to their numbers.

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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I heard on the news today that one reason the president is standing fast on the implementation dates and will not extend the deadline is the insurance companies who went along with the ACA are really pushing the president hard against it. They need their money now, not 6 months or a year from now as they are now insuring are these folks with pre-existing condidtions which is causing them to lose money without the input of the healthy invinceables. This was reported on our 24hours news radio channel, a Cumulus broadcasting company. Not Fox. It seems to make sense, but I haven't heard any of this on the other news outlets.
    It does make sense. What was never properly explained, from my perspective, was what incentive does an insurance company have to offer insurance to those with existing conditions when the vast majority of the healthy and uninsured will simply pay the tax/fine and stay uninsured. There is a clear disconnect there, from what I can see. What's likely going to happen is that everyone who has insurance or gets insurance is going to see it climb dramatically until such time as the tax/fine becomes higher than the cost of insurance.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    One day at a time..
    Apparently the Dem Senators up for re-election don't have that kind of time.
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    But they are related..
    Just like the House refuses to do immigration until they do their ACA bill, if they ever can..
    And we know they can't do a farm or transportation bill..
    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I see that going on, but have no idea why you would bring that up in an ACA thread since they're not related at all.
    The machinations of the Congress are all interrelated..
    The nominations are being held up over Benghazi, not the ACA, or the Tea Party.
    Senator Graham is the key Senator holding up the nominations and he isn't a Tea Party member.
    Did Dems hold up nominations over Iraq, Medicare part d??
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    Re: It's offical Obamacare enrollment is low.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The GOP is winning the war over the airwaves..
    I congratulate your team for that..

    What do you believe??
    I believe you're paid to post personally.
    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The numbers are now going up..
    Democratic poll numbers are down in a few RED states--that is true--will those numbers rebound??
    The numbers are a LIE! If I visited the ACA website, looked at plans, put one in my cart and decided "no, not now" I'm counted as a signee. That's patently dishonest. Imagine, if you can... I'll take Obama's example, Apple. Imagine if Apple posted projected earnings based on anything that had been placed into the Apple Store Shopping cart. They'd get sued, their stock would drop and possible jail time would ensue after the ACTUAL earnings came out. Ya know, the much lower "what people actually bought" numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you hope for this or are you hoping all Americans have "good" insurance??
    I hope the entire fiasco of Government involvement in providing healthcare collapses in on itself. I have the RIGHT to choose the care that is best for both my health concerns and financial concerns. I do NOT have the right to demand other people subsidize my insurance.

    Which is what Obamacare is. When the employermandate hits next year, should this mess be in place... I'll go healthcareless. I've already reconfigured our taxes so we'll owe nothing and get back nothing.
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