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US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

Of course. When something good happens, it is despite Obama and when something bad happens, it's because of Obama. Perfectly logical.

Yes, that and the opposite is true, depending on who you talk to and on what issue. I'm glad I always remember seeing you taking this tone when left leaning posters are explaining how any bad news is everyone but Obama's fault.....

As to this, great to see it. I imagine it will only continue as fracking becomes a more common practice and we start taking advantage of the reserves around this country.

I'd still personally rather see us investing money into technologies that can synthesize oil or get more out of it than attempting to push massively for an energy source that would require an overhaul of the entire infastructure that is currently in place.
 
Yes, that and the opposite is true, depending on who you talk to and on what issue. I'm glad I always remember seeing you taking this tone when left leaning posters are explaining how any bad news is everyone but Obama's fault.....
The left leaning posters generally don't reply to me in a contentious manner. But if they did and they said something equally ridiculous, I would reply to them just the same. His statement, when taken in context of attacks made by Republicans/conservatives, failed the common sense test. I've said many times before, and will continue to say, I'm only about one thing and that's facts and common sense.


Okay, so I guess I'm about two things.
 
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Of course. When something good happens, it is despite Obama and when something bad happens, it's because of Obama. Perfectly logical.

Or perhaps, if you look at the FACTS, like the ones i posted, someone can come to an informed opinion about something, and not default to disagreement on principle.

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That damn Obama and his oppressive energy/oil policies. Conservatives told us for years Obama was doing everything he could to kill the oil business, and now we see just how right they were...

They were and still are correct. Obama has done everything he could to try and stop the boom. To bad for him most of "the boom" isn't coming from land that the feds control.
 
Or perhaps, if you look at the FACTS
If we looked at FACTS, we'd note that at least half of your list had nothing to do with Obama. If we looked at FACTS, we'd note giving the President credit or blame for rising or lowering gas prices or oil production is an erroneously simplistic view of the situation.

If we looked at the FACTS, your post(s) would be just as ridiculous as before and mine would be shown as the tongue-in-cheek comment(s) they have always been meant to be.
They were and still are correct. Obama has done everything he could to try and stop the boom. To bad for him most of "the boom" isn't coming from land that the feds control.
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Of course. When something good happens, it is despite Obama and when something bad happens, it's because of Obama. Perfectly logical.
Also, see above.
 
Much to Obama and his ilk's chagrin.....

Not even Obama can't stop the earth from rotating. There are far more powerful people in the world than the President of the United States.

Obama can only ruin the lives of the poor and middle class people of America, whom he continues to exploit and lie to.
 
If we looked at FACTS, we'd note that at least half of your list had nothing to do with Obama. If we looked at FACTS, we'd note giving the President credit or blame for rising or lowering gas prices or oil production is an erroneously simplistic view of the situation.

If we looked at the FACTS, your post(s) would be just as ridiculous as before and mine would be shown as the tongue-in-cheek comment(s) they have always been meant to be.


Also, see above.

You havent presented any facts. My opinion was based on facts. So far yours is just rhetoric.
 
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This is good news.....Indeed!
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Now can we get to the business of not listening to much to what the Saud and the Sunni have to say?

What other Mainstay besides Oil, does the Saud have to give to the world? Do they have anything else they can offer.....in order to be given relevancy? As being Arab.....isn't enough.

Their other main exports are Wahabbism, terrorism, and money to support terrorists.
 
Their other main exports are Wahabbism, terrorism, and money to support terrorists.

There you have it.....those who would bring Chaos to an Orderly World. To those all around them and to those they RULE over. Anyone else seeing a pattern there? Their only relevancy is OIL.

That which can be taken from them.....at Anytime by the people of power on this planet when they decided too.

Shouldn't this be told to them.....so that they know they are on borrowed time?
 
There you have it.....those who would bring Chaos to an Orderly World. To those all around them and to those they RULE over. Anyone else seeing a pattern there? Their only relevancy is OIL.

That which can be taken from them.....at Anytime by the people of power on this planet when they decided too.

Shouldn't this be told to them.....so that they know they are on borrowed time?

It should, but did you hear their internal minister ( some dept.?) get all bent that we were negotiating with Iran?
we have facilitated our own brand of 'special relationship' (s.i.c.) with the Sunni's, and SA in particular.
We sell them an enourmous amount of weapons -maybe more - or about the same with Egypt.

we need to 'disentangle that foreign relationship', as George Washinton is often misquoted in his Farewell Speech.

Washington's speech was prescient on this -since NATO we are definately entangled.
George Washington's Farewell Address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and urges the American people to avoid long-term friendly relations or rivalries with any nation. He argues these attachments and animosity toward nations will only cloud the government's judgment in its foreign policy.
 
It should, but did you hear their internal minister ( some dept.?) get all bent that we were negotiating with Iran?
we have facilitated our own brand of 'special relationship' (s.i.c.) with the Sunni's, and SA in particular.
We sell them an enourmous amount of weapons -maybe more - or about the same with Egypt.

we need to 'disentangle that foreign relationship', as George Washinton is often misquoted in his Farewell Speech.

Washington's speech was prescient on this -since NATO we are definately entangled.
George Washington's Farewell Address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Excellent quote by Washington Annata.
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Yes, I am aware of the Iranian situation. Also that Egyptian one. You heard Morsi says there will be no peace until they put him back in power.

I say hang him and be done with the matter.
 
Excellent quote by Washington Annata.
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Yes, I am aware of the Iranian situation. Also that Egyptian one. You heard Morsi says there will be no peace until they put him back in power.

I say hang him and be done with the matter.
most of history we eschewed any foreign entanglements -to the point we had to be dragged into WWII.

This is a huge deal , my good friend -why in the heck are we allied with the nation that had most of the attackers from 9-11?

I do understand SA is a "stable "country - what we were looking for - but the excessive ties need to change,
and we really need to be more neutral in that region.

I also agree wholeheartly on Egypt, if any Arab state deserves our support it is Egypt. Which is why Obama's suspension of military aid was yet another of his foreign policy blunders.

For all intents the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, is now an outlawed political party. We need to support Eqypty
(again the stability thing, as well as we do not need to be encouraging Muslim fundamentalists).

Obama is a nebbish on foreign affairs, has no clue about realpolitik
 
most of history we eschewed any foreign entanglements -to the point we had to be dragged into WWII.

This is a huge deal , my good friend -why in the heck are we allied with the nation that had most of the attackers from 9-11?

I do understand SA is a "stable "country - what we were looking for - but the excessive ties need to change, and we really need to be more neutral in that region.

I also agree wholeheartly on Egypt, if any Arab state deserves our support it is Egypt. Which is why Obama's suspension of military aid was yet another of his foreign policy blunders.

For all intents the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, is now an outlawed political party. We need to support Eqypty
(again the stability thing, as well as we do not need to be encouraging Muslim fundamentalists).

Obama is a nebbish on foreign affairs, has no clue about realpolitik



It's not just Obama.....its the Democrats and the Neo Cons too. Albeit with the Neo Cons they are not into taking two steps back and one step forward like the democrats have proved time and time again.

The strategy was to play off groups and seek out what they thought was moderate, and willing to do business with the west.

Problem with all of it.....was taking the stance they had to be let into the game. Which was a false premise.
 
That damn Obama and his oppressive energy/oil policies. Conservatives told us for years Obama was doing everything he could to kill the oil business, and now we see just how right they were...

Name one Obama policy that increaed domestic oil production.
 
That damn Obama and his oppressive energy/oil policies. Conservatives told us for years Obama was doing everything he could to kill the oil business, and now we see just how right they were...

And now gas is almost $3 a gallon here....thanks Obama. It was fine at $3.50.
 
If we looked at FACTS, we'd note that at least half of your list had nothing to do with Obama. If we looked at FACTS, we'd note giving the President credit or blame for rising or lowering gas prices or oil production is an erroneously simplistic view of the situation.

If we looked at the FACTS, your post(s) would be just as ridiculous as before and mine would be shown as the tongue-in-cheek comment(s) they have always been meant to be.


Also, see above.

Oh, here we go: Obama had nothing to do woth the bad stuff. LOL!
 
Apparently none of them killed the oil business or drove gas up to $7/gallon.

Because the production is a result of pre-Obama drilling, or on private land.

We'll be waiting forlinks to Obama's pro-drilling policies.
 
Because the production is a result of pre-Obama drilling, or on private land.

We'll be waiting forlinks to Obama's pro-drilling policies.

Ah, it's because of Bush....

As Conservative likes to say, he has been out of office for more than 4 years.
 
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