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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    This is a debate forum. So debate.
    Respond to what I was saying, instead of ranting on an unrelated topic and I'll consider it.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Name one Obama policy that increaed domestic oil production.
    Don't have to. The point I was making was pointing out how wrong those who opposed Obama were when they said he was trying to kill the oil industry and that it was his fault gas prices were so high.
    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And now gas is almost $3 a gallon here....thanks Obama. It was fine at $3.50.
    Typical Socialist policies, where he's trying to save money for the poor. Thanks Obama for ruining this country by saving poor people money on gas.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, here we go: Obama had nothing to do woth the bad stuff. LOL!
    I'm looking....nope, I didn't say or even insinuate anything of the sort. But hey, good attempt at putting words in my mouth...err, letters on my keyboard.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    He is, and they are....This news is in no way attributed to anything progressive libs have done. This is in spite of their attempts to kill it.
    Of course. When something good happens, it happens because Obama is completely ineffectual and has nothing to do with the good. I'm sure when something bad happens, though, you keep the same position that Obama is ineffectual and had nothing to do with the bad thing, right?

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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Of course. When something good happens, it happens because Obama is completely ineffectual and has nothing to do with the good. I'm sure when something bad happens, though, you keep the same position that Obama is ineffectual and had nothing to do with the bad thing, right?
    Well, simple then....point to what Dear Leader has done to spur this....Short of that, there is nothing there other than American exceptionalism....I know you want Obama to be able to take credit, but sorry, when you have a President that specifically runs an election campaign on killing these industries, and costs "necessarily skyrocketing", you don't get to take the credit when this happens and is good in spite of you.
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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    That damn Obama and his oppressive energy/oil policies. Conservatives told us for years Obama was doing everything he could to kill the oil business, and now we see just how right they were...
    You can thank/blame George W. Bush and his administration for granting/issuing all those exploration permits before he left office for the ramping up of production that has taken place over the past 10 years.

    Obama staying out of the way or being forced to get out of the way by congress has allowed the sound Bush administration policy to bring gains now.

    Interesting that you want to crow for Obama when he's done nothing tangible to make this happen.

    New slogan - "Obama, he's our man - when he does nothing, America prospers" - that's catchy.
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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Don't have to. The point I was making was pointing out how wrong those who opposed Obama were when they said he was trying to kill the oil industry and that it was his fault gas prices were so high
    You pointed in the wrong direction.
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    Typical Socialist policies, where he's trying to save money for the poor. Thanks Obama for ruining this country by saving poor people money on gas.
    LOL. So paying more is less now? $1.838 per gallon was the national average the day before he took office.
    At least you are consistent. Anything, anything at for the disaster Obama.
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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, simple then....point to what Dear Leader has done to spur this
    As I said in my last post:

    "Don't have to. The point I was making was pointing out how wrong those who opposed Obama were when they said he was trying to kill the oil industry and that it was his fault gas prices were so high."

    I know you want Obama to be able to take credit
    If you "know that", then you clearly know nothing. Once more, I'll point you to what I've said before:

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    If we looked at FACTS, we'd note giving the President credit or blame for rising or lowering gas prices or oil production is an erroneously simplistic view of the situation.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Interesting that you want to crow for Obama when he's done nothing tangible to make this happen.
    What's REALLY interesting is how many times I can say I'm not crediting Obama and people still don't seem to understand it. In your defense, you may not have read anything else I've said in this thread (which is completely understandable), but I have said several times what my statements were intended to be.
    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    You pointed in the wrong direction.
    Nope, I was perfectly accurate.
    LOL. So paying more is less now? $1.838 per gallon was the national average the day before he took office.
    Which is such an asinine statement, it amazes me people are still using it. I suppose the fact our economy had just crashed and the stock market was in the pits had nothing to do with that, right? Nevermind the over $4 a gallon average in September 2008, and the gradual rise over the 8 years of Bush's presidency. Nope, let's just focus on a particular date which is completely inconsistent to the otherwise steady upward trend which had existed until the economy crashed.

    At least you are consistent.
    I am. I'm consistently in favor of facts and common sense. It's a shame there aren't more of me.

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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    What's REALLY interesting is how many times I can say I'm not crediting Obama and people still don't seem to understand it. In your defense, you may not have read anything else I've said in this thread (which is completely understandable), but I have said several times what my statements were intended to be.
    That's fair enough - perhaps you have altered your implied contention since the posting I quoted.
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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Of course. When something good happens, it happens because Obama is completely ineffectual and has nothing to do with the good. I'm sure when something bad happens, though, you keep the same position that Obama is ineffectual and had nothing to do with the bad thing, right?
    From my perspective, Obama is on the wrong side of virtually every economic decision/issue of the day. When something good happens in the American economy, it is inevitably because Obama was completely ineffectual in getting what he wanted to do done.

    With respect to when something bad happens - and boy have a lot of bad things happened - we are told we can't blame Obama because he didn't know. Apparently, the most transparent administration in the history of the US likes to keep the President in the dark - even though many former and current White House aids claim that Obama is very "hands on" - I have to chock it up to being on the golf course and unavailable for all those "hands on" meetings for the President never being aware of anything bad coming down the pike.
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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    That damn Obama and his oppressive energy/oil policies. Conservatives told us for years Obama was doing everything he could to kill the oil business, and now we see just how right they were...
    So you want to pretend Obama should be given credit for something he was dragged kicking and screaming into doing? Obama would have a windmill on your car if he could.

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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    From my perspective, Obama is on the wrong side of virtually every economic decision/issue of the day. When something good happens in the American economy, it is inevitably because Obama was completely ineffectual in getting what he wanted to do done.

    With respect to when something bad happens - and boy have a lot of bad things happened - we are told we can't blame Obama because he didn't know. Apparently, the most transparent administration in the history of the US likes to keep the President in the dark - even though many former and current White House aids claim that Obama is very "hands on" - I have to chock it up to being on the golf course and unavailable for all those "hands on" meetings for the President never being aware of anything bad coming down the pike.
    I believe that Obama is very hands on! He wouldn't stand still for anything but! It's just that while having zero experience in running anything, he still thinks he knows everything, and apparently refuses to have anyone around him who disagrees with him. Ergo--today in America!

    Greetings, CJ.

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    Re: US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Respond to what I was saying, instead of ranting on an unrelated topic and I'll consider it.
    Don't have to. The point I was making was pointing out how wrong those who opposed Obama were when they said he was trying to kill the oil industry and that it was his fault gas prices were so high.
    Typical Socialist policies, where he's trying to save money for the poor. Thanks Obama for ruining this country by saving poor people money on gas.
    I'm looking....nope, I didn't say or even insinuate anything of the sort. But hey, good attempt at putting words in my mouth...err, letters on my keyboard.
    Of course. When something good happens, it happens because Obama is completely ineffectual and has nothing to do with the good. I'm sure when something bad happens, though, you keep the same position that Obama is ineffectual and had nothing to do with the bad thing, right?
    Show us ONE single Obama policy that encouraged oil and gas exploration and production.
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