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US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer by 2016: IEA

I dunno man, do you have a few million years to sit around waiting for "mother nature" to make some more oil? Whats in the ground was produced over millions of years, we are extracting it in a blink of the eye relatively speaking.

You may want to do some basic research to understand this issue.

"A few million years" to make oil? LOL. Do yourself a favor and take your own advice.
 
LOL Do some research. There is NO oil being made today, The oil we are using was made millions of years ago and when it's gone...it's gone. The same goes for natural gas and coal.

LOL. Please explain how the earth is not making oil today. This is going to be good for another laugh.
 
LOL. Please explain how the earth is not making oil today. This is going to be good for another laugh.

oil is created by a process that takes millions of years for fossilized remains to become oil.

we use up oil at a far faster rate then it can naturally be replaced.
 
oil is created by a process that takes millions of years for fossilized remains to become oil.

we use up oil at a far faster rate then it can naturally be replaced.

So just exactly was the time frame "millions of years ago" when the earth quit making oil? Placing a time on when the earth quit making it would be the only explanation on how none would be made today. That of course would be silly.

And how are you sure we're using up oil at a faster rate than it's made? One good shift in the plates could open up all kinds of possibilities for oil.
 
So just exactly was the time frame "millions of years ago" when the earth quit making oil? Placing a time on when the earth quit making it would be the only explanation on how none would be made today. That of course would be silly.

And how are you sure we're using up oil at a faster rate than it's made? One good shift in the plates could open up all kinds of possibilities for oil.

it's not that the earth has stopped making oil, it is that we cannot wait millions of years waiting for oil to be created naturally.

oil is not the ideal fuel source in the long term.
 
"A few million years" to make oil? LOL. Do yourself a favor and take your own advice.

The processes of oil formation are no different from what happened a million or a hundred million years ago, and the clock is still moving with geological slowness.

In order to make all the supply we have found it would take about twenty-seven million years.
How Is Crude Oil Formed In the Earth and How Is Petroleum Still Being Created In the Earth Today? | Big Site of Amazing Facts

27 million years to make what we have now. Most estimates say oil will run out in 150 years or so. We will have a long wait at the gas stations then. In human terms there is no way we can wait for more oil to be made.
 
it's not that the earth has stopped making oil, it is that we cannot wait millions of years waiting for oil to be created naturally.

oil is not the ideal fuel source in the long term.

We don't have to wait millions of years. Every day more is made. Always has been. Will be tomorrow as well.

And once again, show me proof that we are using more than is being produced by mother earth. Other people have tried over the years and have failed, miserably.
 
How Is Crude Oil Formed In the Earth and How Is Petroleum Still Being Created In the Earth Today? | Big Site of Amazing Facts

27 million years to make what we have now. Most estimates say oil will run out in 150 years or so. We will have a long wait at the gas stations then. In human terms there is no way we can wait for more oil to be made.

What time frame in that "27 million years" was skipped and the earth quit producing oil? We are not waiting "millions of years" for the earth to produce oil, it's happening right now. By this time tomorrow, additional oil will have been produced since today, so to speak.
The process is delayed by nothing. And who is to say "150 years" is even close to being accurate? Everytime some clown has said we're running out, proven reserves skyrocket.

In human terms or any other terms, we are not waiting for more oil to be produced by mother earth. It's always happening.
 
What time frame in that "27 million years" was skipped and the earth quit producing oil? We are not waiting "millions of years" for the earth to produce oil, it's happening right now. By this time tomorrow, additional oil will have been produced since today, so to speak.
The process is delayed by nothing. And who is to say "150 years" is even close to being accurate? Everytime some clown has said we're running out, proven reserves skyrocket.

In human terms or any other terms, we are not waiting for more oil to be produced by mother earth. It's always happening.

It is happening in limited areas and at a snails pace. We are using it 1000's of times faster than it can be made. That's what you don't get.
 
LOL. Please explain how the earth is not making oil today. This is going to be good for another laugh.

You probably shouldn't mock people when you don't know what you're talking about.
 
There is still plenty of oil left for our use, my estimate is from 60 to 200 years. This gives us time to slowly phase in renewable resources such as wind, solar, ocean current , etc. I say use it while we have it, because we sure can't live without it now.

It is happening in limited areas and at a snails pace. We are using it 1000's of times faster than it can be made. That's what you don't get.
 
It is happening in limited areas and at a snails pace. We are using it 1000's of times faster than it can be made. That's what you don't get.

OK, show me proof.

But I will expect it to be believable. Remember you are the one that typed this out, "LOL Do some research. There is NO oil being made today,". Now you claim otherwise.

Just what is a snails pace? You've gone from zero being produce to not enough. I'm betting because you heard somebody say that or read an article by somebody foolishly enough to write it, is why you came up with zero. Seems to me you are the one that doesn't get it as you have already changed your tune.
 
I did address it. You even bolded it. Your question is irrelevant to the topic.

Sly, I am only going to address this part because all you are doing is repeating yourself...Answering my question with "it's irrelevant" is not an answer, that is a dodge...Because I think you know...See, I think you know that so called 'green energy' only accounts for 1% or so in total energy output in this country, and that destroys your claim of how good it is doing here.....So, have a nice night, we are done until you can have an honest conversation.
 
Sly, I am only going to address this part because all you are doing is repeating yourself.
I am...one would think you'd eventually understand it.

Answering my question with "it's irrelevant" is not an answer, that is a dodge
No, the dodge is your asking the question in the first place. You claimed it was a failure. I proved that wrong. You're now trying to dodge it by asking a different question, instead of admitting you were wrong.

See, I think you know that so called 'green energy' only accounts for 1% or so in total energy output in this country
You really should just quit making **** up.

Renewable energy accounts for somewhere between 11.2% and 13.2% of energy production in the United States.

Sources:
Renewable energy in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
World Energy Statistics | World Energy Consumption & Stats


P.S.: You'll also notice in that second link, when you click down to the United States, the large increase in wind and solar power. And if you click on the link, you'll read this:

The use of renewable energies should increase substantially in the coming years. The objective at the federal level is for renewables to account for 20% of power production by 2020.

Source: https://estore.enerdata.net/united-states-energy.html

and that destroys your claim of how good it is doing here
A) You have no idea what you are talking about.
B) Even if it had been a lower number, it wouldn't have changed the GROWTH of these renewable energy sources under Obama, which defeated your claim it was a failure. So congratulations, you've managed to suffer the indignity of being wrong twice on the same point.

.....So, have a nice night, we are done until you can have an honest conversation.
Says the person who is hiding behind a dodge by asking a question after being proven wrong, a question to which he doesn't even know the answer.

Speaking of honesty, I'm STILL waiting for you to apologize on all of the false claims you've made (and we can add your 1% claim to the pile). You talk about honesty, where is your apology for your false statements? I wouldn't even be surprised if you don't post again in this thread, because we both know you have been wrong in just about everything you've said, and despite your talk about honesty, you don't seem to want to apology for being mistaken.
 
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I am...one would think you'd eventually understand it.

No, the dodge is your asking the question in the first place. You claimed it was a failure. I proved that wrong. You're now trying to dodge it by asking a different question, instead of admitting you were wrong.

You really should just quit making **** up.

Renewable energy accounts for somewhere between 11.2% and 13.2% of energy production in the United States.

Sources:
Renewable energy in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
World Energy Statistics | World Energy Consumption & Stats


P.S.: You'll also notice in that second link, when you click down to the United States, the large increase in wind and solar power. And if you click on the link, you'll read this:



Source: https://estore.enerdata.net/united-states-energy.html


A) You have no idea what you are talking about.
B) Even if it had been a lower number, it wouldn't have changed the GROWTH of these renewable energy sources under Obama, which defeated your claim it was a failure. So congratulations, you've managed to suffer the indignity of being wrong twice on the same point.

Says the person who is hiding behind a dodge by asking a question after being proven wrong, a question to which he doesn't even know the answer.

Speaking of honesty, I'm STILL waiting for you to apologize on all of the false claims you've made (and we can add your 1% claim to the pile). You talk about honesty, where is your apology for your false statements? I wouldn't even be surprised if you don't post again in this thread, because we both know you have been wrong in just about everything you've said, and despite your talk about honesty, you don't seem to want to apology for being mistaken.

Apologize? To who? You? Lol yeah, just wait for it....lol

Right now I am on an emergency run so I'm on my phone, but when I get to my computer at home I'll resume handing you your ass.... "Apologize"....pfft. what a joke....bwahaaaa!
 
That damn Obama and his oppressive energy/oil policies. Conservatives told us for years Obama was doing everything he could to kill the oil business, and now we see just how right they were...

Except this has very little to do with anything he's done besides sitting on his thumbs and allowing Bush era policies and programs to continue.
 
Apologize? To who? You? Lol yeah, just wait for it....lol

Right now I am on an emergency run so I'm on my phone, but when I get to my computer at home I'll resume handing you your ass.... "Apologize"....pfft. what a joke....bwahaaaa!
Apologize to everyone who have had to read your provably false statements. You claim to be about honesty...the honest thing to do would be to admit you've been wrong every step of the way. Are you going to do the honest thing or not?
Except this has very little to do with anything he's done besides sitting on his thumbs and allowing Bush era policies and programs to continue.
Except I'm not crediting Obama for anything, merely pointing out how foolish the Republicans/conservatives look right now.
Again, thanks to President Bush. He was responsible for the huge push into wind energy.
It's never a good idea to interject yourself into a discussion without having read the entire discussion beforehand. I suggest you do so before responding again. Thanks.


EDIT: Besides, from what I keep hearing from Republicans is that Bush isn't in office anymore, so quit blaming him for our current situation.
 
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Except I'm not crediting Obama for anything, merely pointing out how foolish the Republicans/conservatives look right now.

LOL. That's some great, near award winning quality comedy right there.
 
LOL. That's some great, near award winning quality comedy right there.
Hey look, it's you with another attack of a partisan basis.

I do find it fascinating you find the truth to be comedy. Could you explain why you find truth to be so funny?
 
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