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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So libertarians should all share the same opinion on every subject? That sounds too much like lockstep leftism to me.
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    Then, come back to the forum, and tell me how you got that from what I wrote.

    As for this:

    Now they are consistent?
    Being inconsistent in your political positions and being consistent by marching lock step with what everyone else in your ideology believes are two entirely different things. However, I don't expect an "independent" thinker like yourself to grasp such a notion.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    While this line of argument is ultimately pointless as we don't legalize anything else of on the grounds that it's negative effects can be encountered elsewhere (ie. "Well, since bleach is poisonous why not sell arsenic?"), marijuana does have serious side effects on brain chemistry in children, especially in kids with certain genetic predispositions to the psychological effects. Alcohol and cigarettes don't lead to schizophrenia, for example, while the evidence shows show that marijuana can.

    As I have pointed out here in other discussions on marijuana, I spent a decade as a social worker working with drug addicts of all types, and marijuana addiction is one of the hardest to deal with because of this altered state of awareness that so many abusers show. Even in the moderate users there was a strong trend in pot abusers for hallucination, memory loss, and paranoia that made it especially hard to assist them. It is a mean drug and a deceptive drug. It fools people into thinking it is a harmless, soothing remedy for their stress all while being the leading contributor to their stress when sober.

    I dealt with a few alcoholics who abused it bad enough to develop Korsakoff's Syndrome, but it was very rare, and didn't lead to breaks with reality like I saw in schizophrenia patients, and not at the rates of the cannabis abusers.

    A recent review of 120 medical studies has confirmed what many of us who worked with addicts already knew: Marijuana does terrible things to the brain of the abusers, especially teenagers.

    But, ya know... if it means that a few more people can avoid jail while rotting their brain then it was all worth it.
    Oh please, reefer madness nonsense. The fact that you talk so conclusively and strongly about how marijuana is incredibly dangerous is just disgusting, especially when you pretend its "one of the worst". Do you know anything about addiction to real drugs? Its not in the same ballpark, its not even in the same galaxy. If you think your experience dealing with pot smokers makes you an expert on what it does to people I think you are mistaken. You've probably confused people who have problems anyways... but also smoke pot and you went and assumed the weed is what did this to them.

    Your own article with a title claiming "terrible things to the brain" isn't what you said it is. It said most people won't experience any harmful effects and gave absolutely zero information on what harm it does to teenagers other than it "affects" them. Give me a ****ing break.

    Almost everything in this world is more dangerous than marijuana, alcohol certainly is.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Oh please, reefer madness nonsense. The fact that you talk so conclusively and strongly about how marijuana is incredibly dangerous is just disgusting, especially when you pretend its "one of the worst". Do you know anything about addiction to real drugs? Its not in the same ballpark, its not even in the same galaxy. If you think your experience dealing with pot smokers makes you an expert on what it does to people I think you are mistaken. You've probably confused people who have problems anyways... but also smoke pot and you went and assumed the weed is what did this to them.

    Your own article with a title claiming "terrible things to the brain" isn't what you said it is. It said most people won't experience any harmful effects and gave absolutely zero information on what harm it does to teenagers other than it "affects" them. Give me a ****ing break.

    Almost everything in this world is more dangerous than marijuana, alcohol certainly is.
    jmotivator has never tried weed, so he's left with reefer madness videos and government propoganda programs that form the base of his knowledge. Pretty much every person in history who has tried marijuana has almost immediately said "Wtf... why is this illegal?".

    I've gotten more debilitating of a buzz from tobacco and alcohol than I ever have from marijuana.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your political lean says "Libertarian". I beg to differ.
    Really? Is this the peak of your debating skills? Labeling libertarianism a cult?

    I guess if you can't successfully refute their arguments, you should just hurl childish insults at them. Even more ridiculous, you're on the libertarian side of this issue. So... huh?
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Really? Is this the peak of your debating skills? Labeling libertarianism a cult?

    I guess if you can't successfully refute their arguments, you should just hurl childish insults at them. Even more ridiculous, you're on the libertarian side of this issue. So... huh?
    I think the point was that the label "libertarian" is often haphazardly applied and seems more a catch all phrase for "conservative but not republican"

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I think the point was that the label "libertarian" is often haphazardly applied and seems more a catch all phrase for "conservative but not republican"
    Sure, some people select libertarian from the selection box as their lean, when in reality they have no idea what that means. But he specifically called it a cult. That's hard to misinterpret as anything else. Can you back that statement up?
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Policies based on racism and lies will be revoked.
    Good. Lets say goodbye to Obamadon'tcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Sure, some people select libertarian from the selection box as their lean, when in reality they have no idea what that means. But he specifically called it a cult. That's hard to misinterpret as anything else. Can you back that statement up?
    I took the "beg to differ" part as questioning his credentials as a libertarian. Though i can see how you can read it otherwise

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I took the "beg to differ" part as questioning his credentials as a libertarian. Though i can see how you can read it otherwise
    Typical Chuckie, not looking at any context whatsoever. Nick said "I'm not part of a cult", and Hatuey said "Your political lean says "Libertarian". I beg to differ."

    Jesus christ man, spend the 30 seconds it takes to read into the situation you're replying to. As usual, your statements are a god damn waste of time with no point whatsoever.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Typical Chuckie, not looking at any context whatsoever. Nick said "I'm not part of a cult", and Hatuey said "Your political lean says "Libertarian". I beg to differ."
    lol, why do you always get so upset over the most meaningless things? I did read the context, and as I said, I can understand why you would read it differently. Not really a big deal, mate

    Jesus christ man, spend the 30 seconds it takes to read into the situation you're replying to. As usual, your statements are a god damn waste of time with no point whatsoever.
    Are you currently diagnosed for some type of developmental or social disorder?

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    It is illegal in my state and I know of 5th graders who use regularly.
    Cool story, bro. Let me know how they turn out!
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