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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

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    What's crazy is how much the GOP talks about small government while at the same time how bad the GOP want's in me and my wife's pants at the same time. Your folk want to implement policies that play morality police. That is about as big a government intrusion as big government can be.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization - The Denver Post

    "GRAND JUNCTION In two years of work as an undercover officer with a drug task force, Mike Dillon encountered plenty of drugs. But nothing has surprised him as much as what he has seen in schools lately.

    Dillon, who is now a school resource officer with the Mesa County Sheriff's Department, said he is seeing more and younger kids bringing marijuana to schools, in sometimes-surprising quantities.

    "When we have middle school kids show up with a half an ounce, that is shocking to me," Dillon said."



    Who could have foreseen this? It's a mystery...
    It is illegal in my state and I know of 5th graders who use regularly.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your political lean says "Libertarian". I beg to differ.
    Yeah, I suppose that's what makes me "different." I speak for myself and no one else.... Don't confuse that with "support" either.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah, I suppose that's what makes me "different." I speak for myself and no one else.... Don't confuse that with "support" either.
    If by different you mean you're a carbon copy of every other Libertarian out there, yeah. You're as inconsistent as every other libertarian out there. Lookie here before you reply, the OP is stating that the reason to ban marijuana is based on its negative side effects. That's pretty much the antithesis of the supposed "freedom" that Libertarians argue for. So calling the decriminalization a "progressive idea" when every Libertarian from Florida to Washington State supports legalization of weed is an exercise in shooting yourself in the foot.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    As I have pointed out here in other discussions on marijuana, I spent a decade as a social worker working with drug addicts of all types, and marijuana addiction is one of the hardest to deal with because of this altered state of awareness that so many abusers show. Even in the moderate users there was a strong trend in pot abusers for hallucination, memory loss, and paranoia that made it especially hard to assist them. It is a mean drug and a deceptive drug. It fools people into thinking it is a harmless, soothing remedy for their stress all while being the leading contributor to their stress when sober.
    This alone show you know little if anything about marijuana and how it is used and abused.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization - The Denver Post

    "GRAND JUNCTION In two years of work as an undercover officer with a drug task force, Mike Dillon encountered plenty of drugs. But nothing has surprised him as much as what he has seen in schools lately.

    Dillon, who is now a school resource officer with the Mesa County Sheriff's Department, said he is seeing more and younger kids bringing marijuana to schools, in sometimes-surprising quantities.

    "When we have middle school kids show up with a half an ounce, that is shocking to me," Dillon said."



    Who could have foreseen this? It's a mystery...
    A few problems I see with this article:

    1. There are by their own admission no statistics or data to go on. This is exclusively based on the anecdotal reports of some administrative, school, and police officials that the Denver Post spoke to. We have no idea if there actually has been an uptick, and if so if it is really significant.

    2. The abolition of prohibitions (even partial ones like in Colorado) almost always lead to short term increases in uses, especially as recording increases.

    3. It isn't that much of a concern either way. I expect it wont last, and if it does I'm sure most would rather they smoke weed than cigarettes.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Hah, that isn't what it said at all! His whole point is that Marijuana has an adverse affect on developing brains! How on earth did you glean that falsehood from such clarity?
    He said "can," but I won't pick nits. I don't support children smoking marijuana. I'd say we have it about right with 21 years old, same as alcohol. We can't stop the behavior, but we can make efforts to mitigate the damage.

    I was speaking to the larger point that there is no clear case to say marijuana causes psychosis in anyone.


    Again, there is no black and white in drug abuse prevention. Is it your assumption that if drugs were legalized that all the people selling illegal drugs will find gainful employment and turn to a virtuous life? Or do you suppose the kind of people that break the law to make money would find some other illegal way to make money and get arrested for doing it?
    So we need to maintain these counter-productive laws so that criminals don't become different kinds of criminals? Does that really make sense to you?

    Again, do you think the cartels will just go away? Is it your assumption that we would be legalizing all drugs with no controls? It's already illegal for kids to have drugs, and yet they still have them. You don't think the cartels would still target that market?
    And now we are protecting the cartel's profits. Do they send you a birthday card, at least?

    Are there many bathtub gin operations in your neighborhood, these days?

    I said earlier, you can't control the behavior. If that's your goal, you'll fail.

    You can mitigate the damage or you can make it worse.

    You can decide how many of our limited resources to waste in the effort.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your political lean says "Libertarian". I beg to differ.
    OK...

    Beg whoever you would like...

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If by different you mean you're a carbon copy of every other Libertarian out there, yeah. You're as inconsistent as every other libertarian out there.
    So libertarians should all share the same opinion on every subject? That sounds too much like lockstep leftism to me.
    "when every Libertarian from Florida to Washington State supports legalization of weed is an exercise in shooting yourself in the foot.
    Now they are consistent?

    So are libertarians consistent or inconsistent and, while we're at it, A) can leftists hold a thought to the end of a paragraph and B) was it pot smoking that addled their brains?

    An interesting survey might be done on the growth of pot use, big government, big debt and almost half the population dependent on government, all during a similar time frame. Just a coincidence???

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    In schools, we tend to *frown on* the following: drinking, smoking tobacco, smoking pot, doing any other drugs.

    Don't like it? Too bad.
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