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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    But they can't do that because the the idiotic cannabis propaganda machine is pushing legalization on the grounds that it is a harmless miracle plant that mellows you out, cures cancer, replace gasoline and makes a fine pair of pants. If the truth had broken through the pothead bull**** then the stuff wouldn't have been legalized in the first place.
    The prohibition was based on racist lies about Mexicans. I guess people don't like being lied to.

    So take heart, because once the horrific secret truth of how terribly harmful marijuana use is, we'll no doubt reject it thoroughly as a culture.

    Until then, we can only hope the devil weed won't claim our children.

    It might help if they had a single credible study that recommended it be prohibited in the first place.

    I like Schaffer's Library of Drug Policy. They have texts of just about every major study of drug abuse ever conducted, going back to 1894.

    Not one recommends prohibition.

    Maybe you know of some upcoming studies that will blow them all out the water, but your statistical correlation with mental illness ain't it.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    The prohibition was based on racist lies about Mexicans. I guess people don't like being lied to.

    So take heart, because once the horrific secret truth of how terribly harmful marijuana use is, we'll no doubt reject it thoroughly as a culture.

    Until then, we can only hope the devil weed won't claim our children.

    It might help if they had a single credible study that recommended it be prohibited in the first place.

    I like Schaffer's Library of Drug Policy. They have texts of just about every major study of drug abuse ever conducted, going back to 1894.

    Not one recommends prohibition.

    Maybe you know of some upcoming studies that will blow them all out the water, but your statistical correlation with mental illness ain't it.

    I'll just post this here again for you.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Thank you. This article makes my point better than I did:

    'The question is not about whether cannabis is good or bad, but who is more likely to suffer from problems.'
    —Dr. Didier Jutras-Aswad, Université de Montréal
    Some studies have also found links between early cannabis use and schizophrenia, but Jutras-Aswad says it seems clear there is a wide risk profile that includes genetics and behavioural traits in addition to age.
    A "wide risk profile" means that there are so many factors related to schizophrenia that there is no way to tell whether marijuana use is significant. It's a statistical phantom until your side can prove otherwise.

    Over a century of research hasn't managed it, but we're learning new things all the time.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    While this line of argument is ultimately pointless as we don't legalize anything else of on the grounds that it's negative effects can be encountered elsewhere (ie. "Well, since bleach is poisonous why not sell arsenic?"), marijuana does have serious side effects on brain chemistry in children, especially in kids with certain genetic predispositions to the psychological effects. Alcohol and cigarettes don't lead to schizophrenia, for example, while the evidence shows show that marijuana can.
    Okay, so we're banning things because in the long run they're harmful? Yes?
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Also I should point out that your drug legalization scheme has absolutely nothing to do with personal responsibility. You would have the state nurse these derelicts through the rest of their lives rather than slap the bong out of their hand.
    Pot... really? So I await your proposal to reinstitute alcohol prohibition.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Thank you. This article makes my point better than I did:

    The study review showed marijuana was a significant contributor. You don't need to fully understand the mechanism in order to know that marijuana is bad for brain development. So given that this combination of nature and nurture affects about 25% of kids can you tell me how we avoid having that population fall into drug abuse while we make the drugs more available to them?

    And if the connection isn't fully understood then how do you know who is at risk? Seems that a problem that might affect any child should be treated as a problem that would affect any child.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

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    Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization - The Denver Post

    "GRAND JUNCTION — In two years of work as an undercover officer with a drug task force, Mike Dillon encountered plenty of drugs. But nothing has surprised him as much as what he has seen in schools lately.

    Dillon, who is now a school resource officer with the Mesa County Sheriff's Department, said he is seeing more and younger kids bringing marijuana to schools, in sometimes-surprising quantities.

    "When we have middle school kids show up with a half an ounce, that is shocking to me," Dillon said."



    Who could have foreseen this? It's a mystery...
    Been telling people from the start. when its there, they share, and soon enough theres a pot plant growing under the state flag

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization - The Denver Post

    "GRAND JUNCTION — In two years of work as an undercover officer with a drug task force, Mike Dillon encountered plenty of drugs. But nothing has surprised him as much as what he has seen in schools lately.

    Dillon, who is now a school resource officer with the Mesa County Sheriff's Department, said he is seeing more and younger kids bringing marijuana to schools, in sometimes-surprising quantities.

    "When we have middle school kids show up with a half an ounce, that is shocking to me," Dillon said."



    Who could have foreseen this? It's a mystery...
    Clearly he was just ignorant prior to being a resource officer.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    I remember reading about the time politicians first started to campaign for the prohibition of Marijuana in the U.S, it was during a period when uptake was really high among the African Americans (why else would the state attempt to ban it?). There was little to no serious scientific discourse on Marijuana to serve as the spring board behind the campaign to bring a ban of this leaf to the states, simply because the science wasn't there - so scientific inquiry was replaced with rhetoric, and that still remains the case today.

    In fact I remember reading a lot of the justifications given to the U.S public (which at the time they no doubt loved) by Harry J. Anslinger during the campaign in 1930-37.

    Some of the justifications being: "Two Negros took a girl fourteen years old and kept her for two days under the influence of hemp. Upon recovery she was found to be suffering from syphilis."

    "Colored students at the Univ. of Minn. partying with (white) female students, smoking [marijuana] and getting their sympathy with stories of racial persecution. Result: pregnancy"

    "Their satanic music is driven by marijuana, and marijuana smoking by white women makes them want to seek sexual relations with Negroes"


    He was, no doubt, a white supremacist bigot, the legacy of which drug warriors insist on continuing in the modern era.
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