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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It's more than just the one story.

    Your statistics aren't significant that show a decrease in teen useage. Moreover, the teen usage statistics are collected on teens in school, so the statistics you cite that show a decline are actually catching the signal of the higher expulsion rate.

    Expulsion of teens for marijuana is up 25% in Colorado since they began legalizing pot, 29% in total.

    But you know, don't listen to the police and the teachers and the doctors... we need to be listening to the studies created and presented by the pot lobby.
    Actually it shows an utter failure on the part of both police and teachers. Whenever there is a new law where it's anticipated some folks are going to get it wrong, especially the kids, the police need to do a public service campaign and in this case, the teachers need to step up and educate about the law too. Obviously for all their clairvoyance, both groups failed to do squat and left the kids out there to be busted.

    That smacks more of "I told you so" policing and education and an utter fail.

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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Only problem with this is that this was a de-regulation. Why would a cop specifically set out to find more when it has become legal?

    Pot being legal and it being decriminalized are two entirely different things. It's not legal to drink alcohol/smoke weed if you're a minor. It's actually a crime. It's not a criminal activity if you're an adult.

    So now, instead of the state simply saying "weed is illegal" it has made anybody who breaks any current and future regulation on its consumption, production and sales a criminal. Whereas before, you had no reason to even report your consumption, growth and sales to the state, now you effectively do if you don't want to get busted. Which means any violation will result in either fines or prison time and the creation of new criminals.

    As far as the OP goes, cops are probably working overtime now to find more kids using weed. They'll need to make up for the loss of income to local the correctional system.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Cool story bro
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    some of them. definitely failed pot prohibition, though.
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    What happens when everybody thinks like you? That being support the laws they support.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    There is a noticeable decline in children's perception of the harmfulness of marijuana which, as the chart shows, leads to higher marijuana use.
    I have gone up against both supporters of marijuana decriminalization and supporters of criminalization on this. Can you tell which harmful side effects marijuana has that can't be obtained from either house hold products, alcohol or cigarettes?
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Authoritarian conservatives are having a detrimental effect on our country... But I don't advocate making your existence illegal.

    Why am I having to tell a conservative about personal responsibility?
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Authoritarian conservatives are having a detrimental effect on our country... But I don't advocate making your existence illegal.

    Why am I having to tell a conservative about personal responsibility?

    Also I should point out that your drug legalization scheme has absolutely nothing to do with personal responsibility. You would have the state nurse these derelicts through the rest of their lives rather than slap the bong out of their hand.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I have gone up against both supporters of marijuana decriminalization and supporters of criminalization on this. Can you tell which harmful side effects marijuana has that can't be obtained from either house hold products, alcohol or cigarettes?

    While this line of argument is ultimately pointless as we don't legalize anything else of on the grounds that it's negative effects can be encountered elsewhere (ie. "Well, since bleach is poisonous why not sell arsenic?"), marijuana does have serious side effects on brain chemistry in children, especially in kids with certain genetic predispositions to the psychological effects. Alcohol and cigarettes don't lead to schizophrenia, for example, while the evidence shows show that marijuana can.

    As I have pointed out here in other discussions on marijuana, I spent a decade as a social worker working with drug addicts of all types, and marijuana addiction is one of the hardest to deal with because of this altered state of awareness that so many abusers show. Even in the moderate users there was a strong trend in pot abusers for hallucination, memory loss, and paranoia that made it especially hard to assist them. It is a mean drug and a deceptive drug. It fools people into thinking it is a harmless, soothing remedy for their stress all while being the leading contributor to their stress when sober.

    I dealt with a few alcoholics who abused it bad enough to develop Korsakoff's Syndrome, but it was very rare, and didn't lead to breaks with reality like I saw in schizophrenia patients, and not at the rates of the cannabis abusers.

    A recent review of 120 medical studies has confirmed what many of us who worked with addicts already knew: Marijuana does terrible things to the brain of the abusers, especially teenagers.

    But, ya know... if it means that a few more people can avoid jail while rotting their brain then it was all worth it.
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    Re: Pot problems in Colorado schools increase with legalization Read more: Pot probl

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually it shows an utter failure on the part of both police and teachers. Whenever there is a new law where it's anticipated some folks are going to get it wrong, especially the kids, the police need to do a public service campaign and in this case, the teachers need to step up and educate about the law too. Obviously for all their clairvoyance, both groups failed to do squat and left the kids out there to be busted.

    That smacks more of "I told you so" policing and education and an utter fail.
    But they can't do that because the the idiotic cannabis propaganda machine is pushing legalization on the grounds that it is a harmless miracle plant that mellows you out, cures cancer, replace gasoline and makes a fine pair of pants. If the truth had broken through the pothead bull**** then the stuff wouldn't have been legalized in the first place.

    Also, many kids tend to gravitate towards the "get high, be cool" sell of the cannabis lobby than to the "stay in school, don't do drugs" message of the sane people.
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