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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    The State Exchanges are doing better, is that true?
    Oregan has enrolled exactly zero. Not sure how much better that is.
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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

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    Yes, its what happens when the Dems wuss out and implement a Republican idea rather than the right thing, Medicare Part E (aka, single payer)...
    The Dems would have been committing political suicide with single payer. They knew it and that's why they didn't do it.
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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    The State Exchanges are doing better, is that true?
    According to an article I've read the #'s of people signing up for plans must be higher. There were 40,000 people enrolling plans just in NY State, and 8,000 in KY, so I don't see how the nationwide total could be 49,000.

    Kentucky GOP senators were wrong that state didn't want Obamacare | MSNBC

    The state’s healthcare exchange, Kynect, has “enrolled [Kentuckians] in new insurance plans at a rate of about 1,000 Kentuckians a day,” Beshear continued. “The rush of our families and small businesses to enroll in Kynect demonstrates how enthusiastic Kentuckians are about obtaining affordable health coverage.”

    Kentucky’s not alone—28,000 signed up in California and 40,000 enrolled in New York.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Dems would have been committing political suicide with single payer. They knew it and that's why they didn't do it.
    Agreed. Then again, the Cons have made political suicide an art form. It seems the Dems should get a little fun for themselves.

    In the long-run, single payer works and works quite well. If they could get it passed, it would have put the Dems in power for a generation. However, it never would have passed. Only this bastardized view of national healthcare was doable. In the short-run, it has already been a form of political suicide for the Dems. In the long-run, however, the tables will turn on the Cons and they know it (which is why they are fighting to the death right now.)
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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    According to an article I've read the #'s of people signing up for plans must be higher. There were 40,000 people enrolling plans just in NY State, and 8,000 in KY, so I don't see how the nationwide total could be 49,000.

    Kentucky GOP senators were wrong that state didn't want Obamacare | MSNBC
    Because they excluded Medicaid enrollments. Its < 50.000 in the 14 state exchanges when you exclude that, because most of those state's raw numbers are 80-90% Medicaid signups. Not great news for those state's 2015 budgets.

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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Well, its the greater of $95 or a 1% surtax on taxable income... that would be $1,000 to someone with $100K of taxable income. That is a little more compelling. ... and this is the "soft year". Each go up next year to $325 or a 2% surtax in 2015; and finally to $695 or 2.5% of taxable income thereafter.

    The Individual Mandate And Health Insurance
    Make your tax due > 0.01 and your penalty is 0.00

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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Yes, its what happens when the Dems wuss out and implement a Republican idea rather than the right thing, Medicare Part E (aka, single payer)...
    A non-binding mandate to purchase catastrophic insurance, which if doing so, would make you eligible for a tax credit? That's what they implemented? News to me

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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    According to an article I've read the #'s of people signing up for plans must be higher. There were 40,000 people enrolling plans just in NY State, and 8,000 in KY, so I don't see how the nationwide total could be 49,000.

    Kentucky GOP senators were wrong that state didn't want Obamacare | MSNBC
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oregan has enrolled exactly zero. Not sure how much better that is.
    Here is a classic case of perception being reality.

    Real or not real?

    Zero is pretty bad. I'm fond of OR, lived in Eugene for 1.5 years.

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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Here is a classic case of perception being reality.

    Real or not real?

    Zero is pretty bad. I'm fond of OR, lived in Eugene for 1.5 years.
    At this point, I don't believe any of the #'s nor do I care. What counts is what happens in the longer term.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State Obamacare exchanges enroll 3 pct of target so far -report

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    At this point, I don't believe any of the #'s nor do I care. What counts is what happens in the longer term.
    History will be written by the victors.

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