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    Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    The stricken nuclear plant at Fukushima in northern Japan is in such a delicate condition that a future earthquake could trigger a disaster that would decimate Japan and affect the entire West Coast of North America, a prominent scientist has warned.

    “Fukushima is the most terrifying situation that I can imagine,” Suzuki said, adding that another earthquake could trigger a potentially catastrophic, nuclear disaster.


    “The fourth [reactor] has been so badly damaged that the fear is if there’s another earthquake of a 7 or above then that building will go and all hell breaks loose,” he said, adding that the chances of an earthquake measuring 7 or above in Japan over the next three years were over 95 percent.

    Certain phrases by Suzuki, however, aren't the kind of stiff formal talk you'd come to expect from a scientist speaking on grave matters, such as the use of "lying through their teeth" to describe the Japanese government on its handling of the Fukushima disaster; and when describing the potential future catastrophe he described it as "bye bye Japan." This kind of vernacular tends to set off my bull**** alarms. Indeed...


    Suzuki, a prominent environmental campaigner and scientist from the University of British Columbia, whose television science programs and books have gained a wide international audience, has been very vocal in his criticisms of Japan in its handling of the disaster.


    Despite his prominence in Canada, Suzuki has been criticized in the past by the media for double standards and his credentials as a scientist have been queried. While his television programs encourage society to consume less fossil fuel and adopt a more sustainable lifestyle, Suzuki reportedly lives in one of Vancouver’s most exclusive areas and has faced criticism over his globetrotting airplane travel.

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    However, with regard to the current situation at Fukushima, a number of scientists have echoed Suzuki’s concerns. Nuclear technology historian Robert Jacobs told RT that there could easily be more destruction at the plant’s fourth reactor.

    Big quake near Fukushima would ?decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation? ? RT News


    So is the good doctor a sensationalist and an alarmist? Or is this a good time to check out some worthless Nevada and Utah real estate?

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So is the good doctor a sensationalist and an alarmist? Or is this a good time to check out some worthless Nevada and Utah real estate?
    Oh. That is not in question. He is. The question is: Is he right?

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    I like how they try to add credibility with "scientists" echoing Suzuki's concerns, and then go with a "Nuclear technology historian."

    To answer joG's question: no, he isn't right.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Certain phrases by Suzuki, however, aren't the kind of stiff formal talk you'd come to expect from a scientist speaking on grave matters, such as the use of "lying through their teeth" to describe the Japanese government on its handling of the Fukushima disaster; and when describing the potential future catastrophe he described it as "bye bye Japan." This kind of vernacular tends to set off my bull**** alarms. Indeed...





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    Big quake near Fukushima would ?decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation? ? RT News


    So is the good doctor a sensationalist and an alarmist? Or is this a good time to check out some worthless Nevada and Utah real estate?
    Since the day it's been news I've said how this is a BIG deal... Not only a power plant, but had literal tons of nuclear waste in the facility.

    That radiation all builds up, and eventually the "safe" background limit is not so safe anymore.

    Especially with how much of the radioactive water gets dumped into the ocean, it's still smoldering away...

    At this point; there should be international collaboration and volunteers from around the world out doing everything possible to contain the problem... If things get much worse there, it very well could lead to a point where the pacific ocean becomes toxic...

    It may become prudent to, if possible move to the southern hemisphere... Now, to north america represents a minor increase in background radiation, but that becomes cumulative in the long term...

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Since the day it's been news I've said how this is a BIG deal... Not only a power plant, but had literal tons of nuclear waste in the facility.

    That radiation all builds up, and eventually the "safe" background limit is not so safe anymore.

    Especially with how much of the radioactive water gets dumped into the ocean, it's still smoldering away...

    At this point; there should be international collaboration and volunteers from around the world out doing everything possible to contain the problem... If things get much worse there, it very well could lead to a point where the pacific ocean becomes toxic...

    It may become prudent to, if possible move to the southern hemisphere... Now, to north america represents a minor increase in background radiation, but that becomes cumulative in the long term...
    The radioactive water issue isn't an issue because math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The radioactive water issue isn't an issue because math.
    Is that an equivalent argument to; co2 isn't an issue because tree??

    Couldn't help it...

    Anyway, you mean because of the sheer volume of the ocean water?

    Yes, it's much less of a direct issue in north america. That said, the radioactive contamination DOES go through the food supply making it toxic.

    Also, what's the half-life of plutonium?? 30000 years?? Well, that means that the more that spills in for the next 30k years is a BUILDUP of what has been there for the past 30000 years...

    That said, it's the Japanese people that should be worried before us... But you need to also consider that it takes about 6 weeks for the jet stream to cross the pacific and start dropping any hot particles that got into the upper atmosphere... Which again the brunt is into the oceans, but will also land on the west coast...


    It really feels as though radioactivity is nutritious and delicious....

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Certain phrases by Suzuki, however, aren't the kind of stiff formal talk you'd come to expect from a scientist speaking on grave matters, such as the use of "lying through their teeth" to describe the Japanese government on its handling of the Fukushima disaster; and when describing the potential future catastrophe he described it as "bye bye Japan." This kind of vernacular tends to set off my bull**** alarms. Indeed...





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    Big quake near Fukushima would ?decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation? ? RT News


    So is the good doctor a sensationalist and an alarmist? Or is this a good time to check out some worthless Nevada and Utah real estate?
    It doesn't say how this so called Japanapacolypse would unfold.

    I was in living in Tokyo at the time and the people certainly don't trust their government or TEPCO on this one. That being said, there is pretty much no risk to the US from this. The only thing I can think of would be nuclear fallout carried in the jet stream, but that would be so dissipated that it really wouldn't be much of a concern.

    FYI a quake of greater than 7.0 DID happen relatively near the plant a few months ago. We're still here, and they're still there.

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    It doesn't say how this so called Japanapacolypse would unfold.

    I was in living in Tokyo at the time and the people certainly don't trust their government or TEPCO on this one. That being said, there is pretty much no risk to the US from this. The only thing I can think of would be nuclear fallout carried in the jet stream, but that would be so dissipated that it really wouldn't be much of a concern.

    FYI a quake of greater than 7.0 DID happen relatively near the plant a few months ago. We're still here, and they're still there.
    Yes, and really is just a lucky situation... All the more reason to have an international effort to clean that mess up BEFORE a worst case scenario happens... (this is already a worst case scenario depending on how you look at it).

    I agree with you that this, is not a big concern as of yet, but all that radiation released isn't going away any time soon, and just continuing o build up.

    Also, it's not so much the EXPOSURE to radiation that the general population needs to be concerned with; instead the concern is how many radioactive particles are taken in internally....

    That's where the real damage happens...

    This is also not the last we hear of Fukushima.... But really, even if Japan needs to be evacuated, where are you going to put 125 million people??

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Is that an equivalent argument to; co2 isn't an issue because tree??

    Couldn't help it...
    Not at all equivalent.

    Anyway, you mean because of the sheer volume of the ocean water?
    Yes.
    Yes, it's much less of a direct issue in north america.
    The radioactivity is a complete non-issue in North America. Because seriously, math. The sheer volume of water. Even millions of gallons of contaminated water diluted into that volume become less than measurable.

    That said, the radioactive contamination DOES go through the food supply making it toxic.
    Bananas are radioactive too. Significantly more so than the "safe" levels that Japan sets for fish.

    And you're using the word "toxic" wrong.

    Also, what's the half-life of plutonium?? 30000 years?? Well, that means that the more that spills in for the next 30k years is a BUILDUP of what has been there for the past 30000 years...
    A long half-life means something is less dangerous, not more dangerous.

    That said, it's the Japanese people that should be worried before us... But you need to also consider that it takes about 6 weeks for the jet stream to cross the pacific and start dropping any hot particles that got into the upper atmosphere... Which again the brunt is into the oceans, but will also land on the west coast...


    It really feels as though radioactivity is nutritious and delicious....
    A magnitude 7 earthquake is not going to cause the problems this article describes.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Big quake near Fukushima would ‘decimate Japan, lead to US West Coast evacuation

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Yes, and really is just a lucky situation... All the more reason to have an international effort to clean that mess up BEFORE a worst case scenario happens... (this is already a worst case scenario depending on how you look at it).

    I agree with you that this, is not a big concern as of yet, but all that radiation released isn't going away any time soon, and just continuing o build up.

    Also, it's not so much the EXPOSURE to radiation that the general population needs to be concerned with; instead the concern is how many radioactive particles are taken in internally....

    That's where the real damage happens...

    This is also not the last we hear of Fukushima.... But really, even if Japan needs to be evacuated, where are you going to put 125 million people??
    There just isn't enough material in that reactor to badly contaminate a country of that size. Math.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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