Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 27

Thread: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

  1. #11
    Guru
    Juanita's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    now? COLORADO
    Last Seen
    04-27-16 @ 03:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    3,981

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I can accept a single body cavity search as being acceptable with a search warrant. But multiple ones that were increasingly invasive, and potentially harmful, passes the line of being justifiable. It was at that point they did wrong. It move to cruel and unusual punishment for a person who at the time was not found to be guilty of anything and punishment the hospital staff took part in


    This is just one small example of the abuse of power that local and state agencies perpetuate against normal, everyday citizens of this country.

  2. #12
    Resident Martian ;)
    PirateMk1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    9,922

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not sure the hospital did anything wrong unless i missed something

    i mean the smart thing is to do a move called the shot gun approach where you sue everyone but IF there were warrants or court orders the hospital is only following those.
    Not if they are expired or in the wrong county. Then they are screwed. Even if the warrants were legitimate and correct they could still refuse based on the Hippocratic oaths they took, as they are NOT obligated to follow any police directives unless so ordered by a court.
    Semper Fidelis, Semper Liber.
    I spit at lots of people through my computer screen. Not only does it "teach them a lesson" but it keeps the screen clean and shiny.
    Stolen fair and square from the Capt. Courtesey himself.

  3. #13
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,771

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    1.)They could have simply refused to do the procedure, and they wouldn't be sued now. In the first case i heard of, the doctors at the first hospital refused so the cops had to go elsewhere.

    2.) Alternatively, we could just grow up and legalize drugs so this **** never happens again.
    1.) if there was a warrant/court order that could also land them in trouble

    2.) while i do support legalizing come drugs, illegal searches still need addressed.
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  4. #14
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,771

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    1.)I can accept a single body cavity search as being acceptable with a search warrant. But multiple ones that were increasingly invasive, and potentially harmful, passes the line of being justifiable.
    2.) It was at that point they did wrong. It move to cruel and unusual punishment for a person who at the time was not found to be guilty of anything and punishment the hospital staff took part in
    1.) again i agree with you but thats just our OPINION, if theres a court order it becomes grey really fast
    2.) the cops in out opinion yes, the hospital, not if the warrant calls for it
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  5. #15
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,771

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Not if they are expired or in the wrong county. Then they are screwed. Even if the warrants were legitimate and correct they could still refuse based on the Hippocratic oaths they took, as they are NOT obligated to follow any police directives unless so ordered by a court.
    which is what i sad
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  6. #16
    Resident Martian ;)
    PirateMk1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    9,922

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    which is what i sad
    I was talking about being specifically ordered by a court to perform the search, not just because the police have a warrant in hand. Sorry about the confusion.
    Semper Fidelis, Semper Liber.
    I spit at lots of people through my computer screen. Not only does it "teach them a lesson" but it keeps the screen clean and shiny.
    Stolen fair and square from the Capt. Courtesey himself.

  7. #17
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    06-05-17 @ 10:53 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    16,968

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) if there was a warrant/court order that could also land them in trouble
    There was no court order for a colonoscopy, that's for sure. Even the judge can't be so blind as to think he's got that kind of unmitigated power. That procedure can kill someone and for what, he might be hiding some weed in there? No truly free country would abide this, and no "healer" would go along with it.

  8. #18
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,771

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    There was no court order for a colonoscopy, that's for sure. Even the judge can't be so blind as to think he's got that kind of unmitigated power. That procedure can kill someone and for what, he might be hiding some weed in there? No truly free country would abide this, and no "healer" would go along with it.
    then the move for the hospital would to be to also sue the police
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  9. #19
    Educator
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    10-14-14 @ 12:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    701

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Probable cause was established based on how the suspect was standing.
    No, IF anything, it was Reasonable Suspicion, and even that is pushing it.

    The judge should also be sued.
    You can't sue a Judge for that.

  10. #20
    Educator
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    10-14-14 @ 12:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    701

    Re: Second NM Lawsuit Filed Over Body Cavity Searches

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    ... as they are NOT obligated to follow any police directives unless so ordered by a court.
    A Court can not order such as is the subject here.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •