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    Re: Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    If you think the rest of the world was in much of a position to stop Hitler in 1938, then you really don't understand history. Heck, France wasn't even really in a position to do it 1940 either.

    Of the countries we've stopped talking to, how many of them have changed? North Korea? Cuba? It's clear that not talking is not a tenable position. Iran's new President has indicated a willingness to renew talks. What is it Reagan said - "Trust but verify?" You don't want to do either in this case.
    In 1938 no, they had plenty of warning PRIOR TOO, you forget, ther were other years, 37, 36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28... need I go on.

    Iran's new President is a radical, don't believe the hype.
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    Re: Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Interesting POV.
    You're never going to sway the true believer, but the guy reading the thread, who isn't vested in the subject or not sure where they stand CAN be swayed, thus the object of my posts.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente

    Awww.... poor Israel. Somebody must have removed their ring from America's nose.

    The very thought of Israel no longer dictating American policy in the Middle East and America unconditionally sucking up to them at every turn is just disgusting.

    They are, after all, "God's chosen people."

    **** Iran too.

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    Re: Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Awww.... poor Israel. Somebody must have removed their ring from America's nose.

    The very thought of Israel no longer dictating American policy in the Middle East and America unconditionally sucking up to them at every turn is just disgusting.

    They are, after all, "God's chosen people."

    **** Iran too.
    Worry not, Israel could wipe the floor with Iran....If you want to just let the whole region devolve, and turn your back on an ally, I guess that speaks to your own character doesn't it now?
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    Re: Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You're never going to sway the true believer, but the guy reading the thread, who isn't vested in the subject or not sure where they stand CAN be swayed, thus the object of my posts.
    good point!

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    Re: Exclusive: Obama’s Secret Iran Détente

    “The negotiations taking place are about how Iran begins to meet its international obligations and provide assurances not just to us but to the entire world,” the president said.

    LOL. Obamas "assurances" are not worth spit. Everybody with even half a functioning brain knew that years ago. To bad for some of the rest they are just now finding that out the hard way.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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