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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

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    Running into a burning building is going to make the situation worse?

    This is why the world is goung to be so much worse off if the Libbos are running the show.
    It absolutely could. First of all, someone who doesn't know what they are doing could easily bump into things or open doors that cause a difference in the pressure and air flow that causes the flames to change direction. Second, since the person can't see through smoke (why firefighters have thermal imaging cameras and flashlights and have been trained to look everywhere, not just where they expect people might be), those running in to save loved ones could easily end up running right over top of their loved ones or throwing/dropping something on them because they expect them to be in a certain spot. The person can also spread fire to the one they are trying to save, particularly if their clothes catch fire while they are traipsing through the house. Their clothes catching fire could also spread the fire to other parts of the house. It could also cause the person to panic if the fire gets too much for them and they start bumping into things in their house. There are many reasons that firefighters wear the gear they do.
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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In this particular case, this guy had more balls than the firefighters.
    No he was simply being stupid due to his emotional state. It isn't about guts when it comes to running into a fire to save a loved one. That is pure emotion that causes that. The firefighters were there and ended up even going into the house to save a stranger.

    Would it be balls that caused a person to run into a hostage situation to grab for a gun because that person felt the police weren't handling it? Because in most cases that "hero" is going to get him or the hostage or both killed. It certainly isn't likely that he would save the day.
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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No he was simply being stupid due to his emotional state. It isn't about guts when it comes to running into a fire to save a loved one. That is pure emotion that causes that. The firefighters were there and ended up even going into the house to save a stranger.

    Would it be balls that caused a person to run into a hostage situation to grab for a gun because that person felt the police weren't handling it? Because in most cases that "hero" is going to get him or the hostage or both killed. It certainly isn't likely that he would save the day.
    Soldiers on the battlefield make stupid decisions, due to their emotional state all the time. We call it "uncommon valor" and award them with Medals of Honor and hail their heroism forever

    The dad wasn't endangering anyone's life other than his. That's his right.
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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is why the world is goung to be so much worse off if the Libbos are running the show.
    So if policemen, firemen, and teachers are all Libbos, just what in the hell do conservatives contribute to our society?

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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

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    So if policemen, firemen, and teachers are all Libbos, just what in the hell do conservatives contribute to our society?
    We're here, so that Libbos can put words into our mouths and lie about what we say.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're here, so that Libbos can put words into our mouths and lie about what we say.
    Must be hell to always be the victim.

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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Soldiers on the battlefield make stupid decisions, due to their emotional state all the time. We call it "uncommon valor" and award them with Medals of Honor and hail their heroism forever

    The dad wasn't endangering anyone's life other than his. That's his right.
    He was endangering plenty of other lives, including very possibly his own son's. He had no idea what condition his son was in and he didn't even truly know where he was. It is more than possible that he could have made his son's situation worse had the kid actually managed to find somewhere that kept him relatively safe from the smoke and fire.

    And soldiers are trained. They also don't have better trained people available to do something if something else could be done right there at that moment. They are on their own. The main in the OP wasn't on his own. He was not in any sort of position to try to save his son when others, who are more trained were trying to figure out a way they, in all their equipment to do it safely for themselves and that child.
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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    He was endangering plenty of other lives, including very possibly his own son's.
    And the tasered guy's life was not endangered by the taser?

    It is more than possible that he could have made his son's situation worse had the kid actually managed to find somewhere that kept him relatively safe from the smoke and fire.
    What's worse than dead? According to previous logic used there was no "relatively safe" place.


    You keep going back to father "endangering plenty of other lives" yet argue first responders already deemed too dangerous to enter meaning they have no intention to enter fire; which is it?
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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

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    I sincerely hope (and doubt) that such a situation ever arise for you.
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    Re: Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I was pointing out how Libbos are contrary on every damn thing.

    Just being wrong on occassion doesn't make you a Libbo.
    One MIGHT suggest that if you are on the same side on EVERY ISSUE...that you might be...not right...

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