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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Back then, communist in America and the "New Left" advocated the violent overthrow of the U.S. government.

    They gave up during the mid 70's and decided to overthrow the government from with in by hiding behind labels like liberal or progressive and getting elected to public office.

    Re: Hanoi Jane

    Visited Hanoi during the Vietnam War, at which time she accused American soldiers of acting as “war criminals” (That aiding and comforting the enemy)
    “If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist. . . . I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.”
    Married Tom Hayden one of the leaders of the SDS aka New Left.
    Co-founded (with Tom Hayden) the Indochina Peace Campaign, which worked tirelessly to cut American aid to the governments in Saigon and Phnom Penh and help the North Vietnamese Communists and the Cambodian Khmer Rouge overthrow them.

    >" In July-August 1972 Fonda made her infamous trip to North Vietnam. By this time, over 50,000 Americans had been killed in the war. While there, she posed for pictures on an anti-aircraft gun that had been used to shoot down American planes, and she volunteered to do a radio broadcast from Hanoi. She made approximately eight radio addresses, during which she told American pilots in the area:

    “Use of these bombs or condoning the use of these bombs makes one a war criminal … Examine the reasons given to justify the murder you are being paid to commit … I don’t know what your officers tell you ... but [your] weapons are illegal and that’s not just rhetoric ... The men who are ordering you to use these weapons are war criminals according to international law, and in the past, in Germany and Japan, men who committed these kinds of crimes were tried and executed.”

    Fonda also quoted Ho Chi Minh during some of these broadcasts. She referred to President Richard Nixon as a “new-type Hitler,” and advised South Vietnamese soldiers to desert: “You are being used as cannon fodder for U.S. imperialism.”

    These radio addresses were aired repeatedly by the North Vietnamese Communists, for whom propaganda was a key tool of psychological warfare; they used the broacasts not only to hearten their own citizens, but also to undermine the American public's will to go forward with the war, and to crush the morale of U.S. and allied forces..."<


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    >" Such statements could have had only one purpose: to provide aid and comfort to America's Communist enemy. Fonda's propaganda efforts played a major role in prolonging the war and increasing the death toll. As North Vietnamese Colonel Bui Tin explained in a postwar interview with The Wall Street Journal, the American antiwar movement "was essential to our strategy. Support for the war from our rear [China] was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda . . . gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."..."<

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    Are you a lawyer or work for military courts that determine what does and doesn't constitute "aid and comfort to the enemy"? Because I asked for a legal basis, not a diatribe against communism or some layman's opinion on whether she gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Are you a lawyer or work for military courts that determine what does and doesn't constitute "aid and comfort to the enemy"? Because I asked for a legal basis, not a diatribe against communism or some layman's opinion on whether she gave aid and comfort to the enemy.
    Those American soldiers who were stabbed in the back while they were still on the battlefields of Vietnam have weighed the evidence and have found Jane (Hanoi) Fonda guilty of providing aid and comfort to the enemy of the United States during war time.

    Anyone who defends this leftist traitor is guilty of aiding and abetting an enemy of the United States.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Those American soldiers who were stabbed in the back while they were still on the battlefields of Vietnam have weighed the evidence and have found Jane (Hanoi) Fonda guilty of providing aid and comfort to the enemy of the United States during war time.

    Anyone who defends this leftist traitor is guilty of aiding and abetting an enemy of the United States.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It was 58,000 worse names on that wall in DC my left wing friend.....By her name Hanoi Jane put a few of them up there herself.........It sad the you believe her over Medal of Honor winners and other highly decorated vets...

    Oh and I did suck it up....13 moths in country and 20 months on a ship (2 cruises) in the South China Seas.....Instead of running to Canada or protesting by spitting at our troops on their return.
    Whats the difference NP....you believe the swift boat liars over people who served this country honorably.....you just selectively choose those you are outraged about.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    If you freedom too hard you'll break it.
    I would say someone has already broke it in the past four years.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Vietnam vets will never accept and apology from this woman. She should be charged and tried as a traitor to this country......what she said and did is inexcusable May she rot in hell..

    America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' | Fox News
    Dude ... It was over 40 years ago.
    Nothing you could ever say or do will ever have any impact on Jane, but you are hurting yourself with this hatred.
    Do yourself a favor ... let it go...

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    She could never be tried as a traitor... War was never declared against North Vietnam.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    ... Lol. Navy Pride arguing that we should have continued fighting a war to defend French colonial interests in a land nobody wanted us in never gets old. The biggest lie told about the Vietnam war is that we were there to bring freedom to the Vietnamese people. Hahaha. Nope, sorry - Disney story aside - we went in there to defend our economic interests. 58,000 people died so McDonald's could set up shop in Vietnam. If that's something worth dying for, go right ahead - but don't bull**** the rest of us into believing that the freedom of the Vietnamese was important when we were funding and supporting 2 dozen different dictators around the world.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I would say someone has already broke it in the past four years.
    Nice dodge, but seriously if defending someone that you've accused of treason makes one a traitor as well than you've basically ended several liberties in your attempt to defend them. Specifically you've ended freedom of speech, because having a certain opinion equates to treason according to you, and you've ended the right to representation in court since if she had a defense attonery he'd be a traitor as well.

    None of that has to do with Obama, that's your opinion.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Ours has that.
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    They still can be found in the urinals in many VFW and American Legion post around the nation.

    You will not find to many urinals with the Jane Fonda target anymore on military installations. The liberals have classified all urinals to be sexist and politically incorrect and they are being replaced with gender friendly crappers.

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    Photo courtesy of VFW Post 2075
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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