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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Sounds like an arrogance induced CIA fantasy. Jane Fonda would be mortified.
    Regardless, he was lying.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    You're right. The World has not been safe against USA aggression from Granada, Vietnam, Korea, Haiti, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Yemen, Chile, etc. and not one of those Nations attacked us. We attacked them. Afghanistan is partially justified because of OBL, but Omar asked for evidence that OBL was behind 9-11 and implied if we could prove that, then he would submit OBL to authorities. We've attacked lots of Nations. Full time war. Good for business, don't you think? You're right. The World is not a safe place. The War Machine is out to getcha.
    So you're good with communism. How did you feel about the fascists and the nazis?

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Regardless of whether or not she turned POW letters over to the enemy, she's still a bitch for what she did, consorting with the enemy like that, as they had some of OUR guys being held as POWs.


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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Regardless of whether or not she turned POW letters over to the enemy, she's still a bitch for what she did, consorting with the enemy like that, as they had some of OUR guys being held as POWs.

    While I'm not privy to Jane Fonda's deepest private thoughts on the matter, the pictures make me uneasy. She's supposedly anti-war, roughly 35 years old and in my opinion a little past being like "wow gosh lookit the big boom stick!" I'm in my thirties, relatively anti-war myself, and know what a damn cannon is and what it's used for.

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    While I'm not privy to Jane Fonda's deepest private thoughts on the matter, the pictures make me uneasy. She's supposedly anti-war, roughly 35 years old and in my opinion a little past being like "wow gosh lookit the big boom stick!" I'm in my thirties, relatively anti-war myself, and know what a damn cannon is and what it's used for.
    And to think, that very gun was used to try and kill Americans. And she cheers the gun and it's crew on.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    You're right. The World has not been safe against USA aggression from Granada, Vietnam, Korea, Haiti, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Yemen, Chile, etc. and not one of those Nations attacked us. We attacked them. Afghanistan is partially justified because of OBL, but Omar asked for evidence that OBL was behind 9-11 and implied if we could prove that, then he would submit OBL to authorities. We've attacked lots of Nations. Full time war. Good for business, don't you think? You're right. The World is not a safe place. The War Machine is out to getcha.
    LOL. Nice failed attempt to lump everything together as the USA being the aggressor in each and every case. When excluding all the countries you listed that truly did not meet your "aggressor" standard, really what we're left with is two off your list. Haiti and Libya. And if we do a really big stretch, Libya falls off the list as well. Our actions in all the other you listed were the result of the aggressive actions of listed country and the USSR or muslim terrorists.

    And no, overall long term, war is not good for business. But it is a good thing we have a "war machine". If we didn't, we'd be dodging more bombs than we have. There is an old saying that applies to everyone (I don't know where it came from) and it is completely true. Here it is: "You may have no interest in war but it always has an interest in you". History proves that statement 100% correct.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    While I'm not privy to Jane Fonda's deepest private thoughts on the matter, the pictures make me uneasy. She's supposedly anti-war, roughly 35 years old and in my opinion a little past being like "wow gosh lookit the big boom stick!" I'm in my thirties, relatively anti-war myself, and know what a damn cannon is and what it's used for.
    She was a real jerk, and that's an understatement IMO. If she feels badly about how she behaved back then, good, she should.

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. Nice failed attempt to lump everything together as the USA being the aggressor in each and every case. When excluding all the countries you listed that truly did not meet your "aggressor" standard, really what we're left with is two off your list. Haiti and Libya. And if we do a really big stretch, Libya falls off the list as well. Our actions in all the other you listed were the result of the aggressive actions of listed country and the USSR or muslim terrorists.

    And no, overall long term, war is not good for business. But it is a good thing we have a "war machine". If we didn't, we'd be dodging more bombs than we have. There is an old saying that applies to everyone (I don't know where it came from) and it is completely true. Here it is: "You may have no interest in war but it always has an interest in you". History proves that statement 100% correct.
    Libya doesn't "fall off". the US spent the most money, flew the most sorties, did command and control, and targeted the Qaddafi convoy for assassination outside Sirte.

    Further Hillary/Suan Rice lied about the "Viagra rape"
    Amnesty questions claim that Gaddafi ordered rape as weapon of war - Africa - World - The Independent

    At the end of the "NATO partnership" it was only the US/GB/France (the 'old colonialists' to tie into this thread) left.
    The rest of NATO had dropped out.
    Oh. and our actions created the terrorist state that is now Libya. Yankee Doodle.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Libya doesn't "fall off". the US spent the most money, flew the most sorties, did command and control, and targeted the Qaddafi convoy for assassination outside Sirte.

    Further Hillary/Suan Rice lied about the "Viagra rape"
    Amnesty questions claim that Gaddafi ordered rape as weapon of war - Africa - World - The Independent

    At the end of the "NATO partnership" it was only the US/GB/France (the 'old colonialists' to tie into this thread) left.
    The rest of NATO had dropped out.
    Oh. and our actions created the terrorist state that is now Libya. Yankee Doodle.
    Libya, and Gaddafi, was never terrorist free but he was a known known and, following Iraq, the west pretty much had him under control. There was no reason I could see for getting rid of him, especially while 'leading from the rear'.

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you're good with communism. How did you feel about the fascists and the nazis?
    Fascism and Corporatism are pretty much the same thing and I don't like the Corporatism here in the USA. "War is good business" is Corporatism and it is a boom business here in the USA. China is Communist and I don't hear your rant indicting China. I don't think anybody ever liked the Nazis. The Nazis were the last bad guy "ism" that I can recollect. All others are marketed and promoted for war profit and corporate resource acquisition. Like OIL in the ME. Pipeline routes. Shipping lanes. Normal, everyday CORPORATISM. Known as Fascism under Mussolini but just plain old Corporatism here in the USA.

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