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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    the spitting was isolated -and considering the nation was split in 2,,,well I'll not try to justify it. It was wrong, and disrespectful.

    I was on the home frontlines, trying to get the war stopped. It's long over, and the dead died for nothing but their service to America.
    Not for Vietnam, not for a nobel goal; but that is enough. All blessings to them who serve.
    I didn't serve. But let me be the first to tell you that hippy has yards STILL spit on our troops and I personally witnessed 1 dirt ball occupy punk spit on a marine friend scarred and so riddled with PTSD that he couldn't drive a car.

    "Isolated" is certainly garbage.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    DUDE.

    IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. LIKE. THAT.



    But you think whatever you want.
    I've given you an opening for everything but your opinion to substantiate your claim that it was treason, but either you were too lazy, or you couldn't find the source, I don't know what...but either way it's not my fault so don't yap at me.

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    I didn't serve. But let me be the first to tell you that hippy has yards STILL spit on our troops and I personally witnessed 1 dirt ball occupy punk spit on a marine friend scarred and so riddled with PTSD that he couldn't drive a car.

    "Isolated" is certainly garbage.
    thanks for the anecdotal, it happened. It wasn't the norm, most of us at least understood
    "there but for the grace of God (or the draft board/lottery) go I."

    I made my peace with the Viet. vets long ago - something you might want to consider.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What on earth are you talking about? You're simply pulling attacks out of thin air.

    My query regarding LBJ and you attempting to use him as an anti-liberal cudgel has nothing to do with "learning history;" I was simply asking what the point was. Although I know what it was -- since he escalated the war, you are attempting to use him to blame "liberals" for Vietnam. Because anytime anything bad happens, the right's first instinct is to find a way to make it be a liberal's fault.
    Escalated the war? He was the one that sent our first combat units to the place. Do you not think he had his reasons, right or wrong, smart or dumb, for doing that?


    I don't find a way to make anything a liberals fault. They do. I just routinely comment on their stupidity and their failed brain dead ideas.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Tricky Dick ran in '68 on he had a secret plan to end the war Vietnam, it was a lie. In the end 58,000 of our soldiers died and apparently that's not enough for some people on the Right.
    Don't you know that the only way to keep a secret is not to tell anybody? So how would you know if he actually had a secret?

    Are you now trying to say Nixon was a right winger? LOL. You too would find that really, really funny if you ever bothered to looked at what he did as President.

    Apparently "58,000" of our soldiers deaths is not enough for the you to know that a liberal started our combat involvement in Vietnam.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I've given you an opening for everything but your opinion to substantiate your claim that it was treason, but either you were too lazy, or you couldn't find the source, I don't know what...but either way it's not my fault so don't yap at me.
    No, you haven't -- you've been on some irrelevant bender about "precedent." Precedent does not apply. Only facts. And yes, in my opinion, the facts fit the elements.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Don't you know that the only way to keep a secret is not to tell anybody? So how would you know if he actually had a secret?

    Are you now trying to say Nixon was a right winger? LOL. You too would find that really, really funny if you ever bothered to looked at what he did as President.

    Apparently "58,000" of our soldiers deaths is not enough for the you to know that a liberal started our combat involvement in Vietnam.
    I remember it was JFK who sent advisers to Vietnam and it was LBJ who escalated it. He declined to run for another term because he realized he did wrong. Who knows what would have happened if JFK was not assassinated on Nov 22, 1963?


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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Vietnam vets will never accept and apology from this woman. She should be charged and tried as a traitor to this country......what she said and did is inexcusable May she rot in hell..


    America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' | Fox News



    I am a Vietnam vet and I have never had any use for Jane Fonda.

    But I will save my hate for the real enemies of the USA.

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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    thanks for the anecdotal, it happened. It wasn't the norm, most of us at least understood
    "there but for the grace of God (or the draft board/lottery) go I."

    I made my peace with the Viet. vets long ago - something you might want to consider.
    I never had animosity for those who had the balls to go do a job that they could end up losing their life over. Spitters weren't isolated. Isolated suggests that it only happened a few times in a few small cases. I think a YouTube search shows that it happened plenty.
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    Re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I remember it was JFK who sent advisers to Vietnam and it was LBJ who escalated it. He declined to run for another term because he realized he did wrong. Who knows what would have happened if JFK was not assassinated on Nov 22, 1963?
    Based on his "Summons of the Trumpet" speech and what he started doing in Vietnam, my guess would be pretty much what LBJ did. But I have no way knowing with 100% certainty.
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