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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, this comes close - at least from the perspective of somebody who did serve in the Vietnam War:

    Patriotic American Ted Nugent **** His Pants to Avoid the Draft

    I don't like either one of them, but if you folks want to make a hero of Crazy Ted, be my guest.
    Well, I guess our scales of justice are weighted quite a bit differently.

    For one thing, Nugent was a kid. 18 in '67, think the US lost the second most of our guys in that year, most in the year following... pretty gruesome plan if he actually did it in that manner, tho. Wonder if it is a true story, actually.

    Jane was a mature 35 when she went to Hanoi... went on radio, called our leaders "war criminals", sat in the seat of an Anti-[American]Aircraft Gun...

    "When cases of torture began to emerge among POWs returning to the United States, Fonda called the returning POWs "hypocrites and liars". She added, "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed." Citizen Jane: The Turbulent Life of Jane Fonda, Christopher P. Andersen, Dell Pub., 1991, p. 266

    and... other stories...

    While it is understandable that we may differ on Ted, Jane is undeniably the one who went far far farrrr over the line, no matter who is drawing it... unless it is one who may side with our enemies.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    A poopy pants POS draft dodger. You could make the argument Fonda at least did something.
    Wow, that's your argument?
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Her photo used to be quite commonly displayed in mens urinals at many military installations. Everybody enjoyed taking a leak while aiming at her.

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    They still can be found in the urinals in many VFW and American Legion post around the nation.

    You will not find to many urinals with the Jane Fonda target anymore on military installations. The liberals have classified all urinals to be sexist and politically incorrect and they are being replaced with gender friendly crappers.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    How the hell do you know? She is a traitor and should be tried as one.........If she is so damn innocent why doesn't she do that?????
    She's said she regrets it.
    Just like those soldiers said she never ratted them out about a note.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    How about aiding and abetting an enemy. Sitting on the anti aircraft gun wearing her pith helmet with the NVA all round her pretending to shoot down our planes. What a picture that was. I don't think there is any doubt what FDR would have done if someone had gone to Berlin and pretended to shoot down our planes, do you? I will never forgive her or our UN Ambassador.
    Posing for a picture doesn't help them shoot down any planes.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I was in Country as well. I hated Hanoi Jane for a few years until I found out what the war was about and then my hatred moved to the politics that sent us over there. At least she tried to stop the war, better than most and infinitely better than scumbag Nugent. Her heart was in the right place but her mind was not yet mature. She has been consistent throughout her very public life and supported some very good causes. I forgive her for youthful indiscretion.

    Thank you for your service......I was a squid (sailor) stationed in a safe place and we was sickened by the way the left turned on us. We knew we could win but the suits would not let us........Believe you me the spitting and burning our troops in effigy were not isolated incidents....we need support by you and the people of your ilk and did not get it..........I will close this out by repeating "Hanoi Jane" was a traitor.....she was a grown woman nd knew exactly what she was doing........Whether the war was right or wrong had very little to do with her......I will hate her until the day I die....That will never change.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Posing for a picture doesn't help them shoot down any planes.
    That is how I feel, how most vets feel. Walk into any VFW and you will find their views are pretty much like mine. She was doing this while her friends the NVA were trying to kill us. I guess perhaps it is something one would have to experience. It was much more than posing for a picture. But I do not expect you to understand and I suppose it is best to let it be at that.

    She can be your hero, not mine.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    She's said she regrets it.
    Just like those soldiers said she never ratted them out about a note.
    Just like the Green River killer who murdered over 40 women.....The only difference is we don't know how many "Hanoi Jane" killed.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    The people most responsible for unnecessary deaths in Viet Nam is Richard Nixon. Nixon may have sabotaged the 1968 Paris Peace talks to help Nixon win the election that year. After Nixon was elected they kept the war going as long as they could manage before they saw that nearly the whole country wanted us out of Viet Nam. Nothing was gained by allowing the war go on for so long.

    "...The most arresting chapter gives us conclusive reason to believe that Nixon and his associates -- especially Attorney General John Mitchell and Vice President Spiro Agnew -- consciously sabotaged the Vietnam peace negotiations in Paris in the fall of 1968. Elements of this story have surfaced before, in books by, among others, Clark Clifford and Richard Holbrooke, Seymour Hersh and William Bundy. But this is the most convincing account to have appeared so far, relying as it does on wiretaps released to Summers by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Many senior Democrats knew this ghastly secret but kept it to themselves, if only because L.B.J. had lawfully if shamefacedly bugged Nixon and and his co-conspirators, as well as the South Vietnamese Embassy. (The FBI intercept cables are reproduced here.)

    Using a series of extremist and shady intermediaries, the Nixon campaign covertly assured the South Vietnamese generals that if they boycotted President Lyndon B. Johnson's dearly bought conference (which they ultimately did on the very eve of the election) they would get a more sympathetic administration. Irony is too feeble a word for what they actually got: a losing war, protracted for four years and concluded -- with much additional humiliation -- on the same terms that Johnson and Hubert Humphrey had been offering in 1968. Summers has spoken to all the surviving participants, including the dramatic go-between figure of Anna Chennault, who now regards even herself as one of those betrayed by this foul deal. Almost half the names on that wall in Washington are inscribed with a date after Nixon and Kissinger took office. We still cringe from counting the number of Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians. Nixon's illegal and surreptitious conduct not only prolonged an awful war but also corrupted and subverted a crucial presidential election: the combination must make it the most wicked action in American history. "
    Let Me Say This About That a review of THE ARROGANCE OF POWER The Secret World of Richard Nixon By Anthony Summers with Robbyn Swan.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That is how I feel, how most vets feel. Walk into any VFW and you will find their views are pretty much like mine. She was doing this while her friends the NVA were trying to kill us. I guess perhaps it is something one would have to experience. It was much more than posing for a picture. But I do not expect you to understand and I suppose it is best to let it be at that.

    She can be your hero, not mine.
    I will add the Fleet Reserve Association to.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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