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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Is that a quote from an interview she gave some time ago or a reference from a book she authored? If so, can you provide a link or the reference source? I'm just curious as to it's origin.
    Sure.

    Here's another from the link of her words: ""To the U.S. servicemen who are stationed on the aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin, those of you who load the bombs on the planes should know that those weapons are illegal. And the use of those bombs or condoning the use of those bombs, makes one a war criminal."

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    She should have been hung or shot within days of her returning from Vietnam.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Then you aren't understanding a word I'm saying.

    THE JURY decides if the facts fulfill the elements - period. No precedent is needed.
    Yes, and until there are court decisions mandating what constitutes giving aid and comfort OR legal precedents, your opinion that Jane Fonda is guilty of treason remains solely in the realm of your opinion.

    Here's one example of what I'm talking about.

    Aid and ComfortTo render assistance or counsel. Any act that deliberately strengthens or tends to strengthen enemies of the United States, or that weakens or tends to weaken the power of the United States to resist and attack such enemies is characterized as aid and comfort.
    Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant.
    In the wake of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, there was a great deal of concern expressed about terrorist "sleeper cells" in the United States. Sleeper cells can be individual terrorists or groups of terrorists who blend in with society at large; they remain inactive, even for years, until they receive orders to carry out their mission. Some of the perpetrators of the september 11 attacks belonged to such sleeper cells.
    Widespread concern over terrorist sleeper cells fueled suspicion that some U.S. citizens were knowingly providing aid and comfort to terrorist cells located in the United States. Aid and comfort was allegedly provided by shielding the identities of terrorists from U.S. authorities, and providing funds, transportation, and other forms of assistance to terrorists who plotted against U. S. interests.
    In the subsequent U.S. military action against the Taliban government in Afghanistan and members of the al Qaeda terrorist organization located there, which started in October 2001, U.S. forces captured John Walker Lindh, a 20-year-old American citizen who was trained by and was fighting for the Taliban against the U.S. government. The Walker Lindh case garnered enormous coverage in the press, with many claiming that Walker Lindh's role as a combatant for the Taliban was tantamount to treason as it gave aid and comfort to enemies of the United States.
    Aid and comfort legal definition of Aid and comfort. Aid and comfort synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    Notice the use of examples of what constitutes giving aid and comfort? Not so straight forward, is it? Not especially when it's so hard to quantify or qualify the exact results of the damage Jane Fonda was or was not responsible for.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post

    Its interesting that leftists are criticized as un-democratic subversive revolutionaries when they work outside of the mainstream political system, but then get criticized as being subversive infiltrators when they work within the system and with an establshed political political party.
    Either way they are subversive.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes, and until there are court decisions mandating what constitutes giving aid and comfort OR legal precedents, your opinion that Jane Fonda is guilty of treason remains solely in the realm of your opinion.

    Here's one example of what I'm talking about.



    Aid and comfort legal definition of Aid and comfort. Aid and comfort synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    Notice the use of examples of what constitutes giving aid and comfort? Not so straight forward, is it? Not especially when it's so hard to quantify or qualify the exact results of the damage Jane Fonda was or was not responsible for.
    Easy to quantify, qualify and anything else to me.

    But to an -ist, words mean only what they want them to mean when they want them to.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Who said that Alinsky belonged to any political party ? You could say he was an independent who leaned heavily to the left.

    It's that Marxist, todays progressives, etc. uses Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" as a guide book. Even Obama used it to get elected, it works on the uninformed and the misinformed and especially with stupid people.

    BTW: Wikipedia isn't really a reliable source when it comes to politics and political figures. A lot of bias editing and reediting and reediting the reedited. In fact the Wiki article on Alinsky was been called a editing war that's been going on.
    There's a reason why Alinsky called himself a Community Organizer, why Barrack Obama said that was his singular qualification as well and why Hillary Clinton did her thesis on the man.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, I fully understand why people don't like her. Hell, I don't like her. But when people up there start mentioning her in the same breath as the goddamn Khmer Rouge, then maybe it's time for a little perspective.
    The propaganda voiced by Jane Fonda, and many others, led to America's withdrawal from Vietnam and the rise of the Khymer Rouge, as well as the Boat People too of course.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Is that a quote from an interview she gave some time ago or a reference from a book she authored? If so, can you provide a link or the reference source? I'm just curious as to it's origin.
    There is lots of documentation of HJ's actions during the Viet Nam War and up to the present. Google Jane Fonda, I, a socialst. The quote was repeated many times in speeches, primarily to young college students.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes, and until there are court decisions mandating what constitutes giving aid and comfort OR legal precedents, your opinion that Jane Fonda is guilty of treason remains solely in the realm of your opinion.


    DUDE.

    IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. LIKE. THAT.



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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The propaganda voiced by Jane Fonda, and many others, led to America's withdrawal from Vietnam and the rise of the Khymer Rouge, as well as the Boat People too of course.
    What, exactly, was our terms of victory in Vietnam? It wasn't a winnable war.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Neither is that bull**** "Networks" crap you cited earlier.
    That site is run by a "Red Diaper Baby" and was one of the top leaders of the extreme radical left during the 60's and 70's.

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