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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Now kobie I want you to concentrate like a laser beam.........Cheney was not the president.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Now kobie I want you to concentrate like a laser beam.........Cheney was not the president.
    No ****, sherlock. I never said he was.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No ****, sherlock. I never said he was.
    Then why did you bring it up? we were talking about presidents not VPs.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Then why did you bring it up? we were talking about presidents not VPs.
    Because I felt like it.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Because I felt like it.
    Typical lefty when they are beat on and issue........fine
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Typical lefty when they are beat on and issue........fine
    It was a stupid issue.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Although the right loves to hate Alinsky, I haven't actually found out specifically what it is about him that they hate so much. I don't know a lot about him, but all of it has been very positive. What was his crime? Helping the poor organize? The man who wrote "Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon" and threatened to protest with a fart-in at a symphony concert can't be all bad.
    Alinsky like most radical leftist used the poor to further their socialist agenda. They need the poor to gain political power.

    >" Born to Russian-Jewish parents in Chicago in 1909, Saul Alinsky was a Communist/Marxist fellow-traveler who helped establish the tactics of infiltration -- coupled with a measure of confrontation -- that have been central to revolutionary political movements in the United States in recent decades. He never joined the Communist Party but instead, as David Horowitz puts it, became an avatar of the post-modern left.

    Though Alinsky is rightfully understood to have been a leftist, his legacy is more methodological than ideological. He identified a set of very specific rules that ordinary citizens could follow, and tactics that ordinary citizens could employ, as a means of gaining public power. His motto was, “The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.”

    Alinsky studied criminology as a graduate student at the University of Chicago, during which time he became friendly with Al Capone and his mobsters. Ryan Lizza, senior editor of The New Republic, offers a glimpse into Alinsky’s personality: “Charming and self-absorbed, Alinsky would entertain friends with stories -- some true, many embellished -- from his mob days for decades afterward. He was profane, outspoken, and narcissistic, always the center of attention despite his tweedy, academic look and thick, horn-rimmed glasses.”...<

    Saul Alinsky - Discover the Networks

    What's the Jane Fonda and the fringe of the radical left (including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Robert Sheer, Bill Ayres) connection to Saul Alinsky ?

    >" In 1969, SDS began splintering into factions, one of which, calling itself Weatherman, was elected to SDS leadership and proclaimed that the time had come to launch a race war on behalf of the Third World and against the United States. This new entity dissolved SDS and formed a terrorist cult in its place, which took the name Weather Underground.

    By the early 1970s, the openly defiant and revolutionary New Left had spent its political capital and was a dying movement. But its adherents remained committed to the cause, altering their tactics so as to work within the system in a manner the New Left had previously chosen not to do. These latter-day leftists incorporated the tactics of the infamous Saul Alinsky, seeking to change society by first infiltrating its major institutions – the schools, the media, the churches, the entertainment industry, the labor unions, and the three branches of government – and then implementing policies from those positions of power.Most notably, the ex-New Leftists found a home in the Democratic Party. By 1972, they had seized control of the party,..."<

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    "Discover The Networks" is the most moronic pile of dog**** I've ever seen someone attempt to refer to as a source.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you're saying those POWs are lying? Ok. You have a right to that opinion.

    But when somebody comes out with a story naming particular POWs being supposedly ratted out by Fonda, and those very POWs say it never happened, I tend to believe them. Feel free to continue calling them liars, though. You have that right.
    This sounds suspiciously like you are injecting fact and reason into the right wing sewer babble. Be careful.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    For a lot of people on this forum a thread on pet grooming is appropriate for bringing up the horrors of socialism. So I won't move to another thread, but continue to ignore it or laugh at it as usual.
    If this was a thread on pet grooming then you might have a point. But it isn't and you don't.

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