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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    No disagreement with this.

    No disagreement that her behavior was un-American.

    The rumors about the notes taken from POWs and their deaths have never been proven.

    I have never seen any credible evidence where she caused deaths.

    And for the record, I have never cared for her and have never spent a dime that went anywhere near her pockets.
    Kids were dying and she was degrading them...

    Imagine the horrors of having to go to war while some preppy bitch talks **** about you while you're in the middle of a jungle eating out of a can just "following orders."

    It doesn't matter what your political views are - it's just rude, mean, cruel etc....

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    YOu are correct, I am not a big Clinton fan, he as a good president but brought great shame to the office, not a fair trade. I am indifferent on Carter, not a good president but I think a good man. I am not quite sure about the English and hold your hand thing, was there a point to that? I honestly believe most conservatives are partisan hacks, this post just seems to be more evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I am sure you put ol BJ Clinton with Ted and Jane then. And all the ones given amnesty by Jimmy Carter, too? Just a bunch of low lifes all the way around, eh?

    ohhh...
    Its all in English... certainly not here to hold your hand.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    YOu are correct, I am not a big Clinton fan, he as a good president but brought great shame to the office, not a fair trade. I am indifferent on Carter, not a good president but I think a good man. I am not quite sure about the English and hold your hand thing, was there a point to that? I honestly believe most conservatives are partisan hacks, this post just seems to be more evidence.
    How about all those amnestees? And Carter only pretends to be a good man, apparently fools some, not most.

    I think you just don't understand people who may be a bit more clever than you. No need for anybody to be a hater of this side for that, tho.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    No disagreement with this.

    No disagreement that her behavior was un-American.

    The rumors about the notes taken from POWs and their deaths have never been proven.

    I have never seen any credible evidence where she caused deaths.

    And for the record, I have never cared for her and have never spent a dime that went anywhere near her pockets.
    Come on SMTA, are you going to deny that the anti-war movement in America didn't prolong America's involvement in the Vietnam war ?

    And Jane Fonda like the "New Left" weren't against the Vietnam war. They were against the United States winning in Vietnam. Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, the SDS, Weather Underground, Communist Party USA were all on the side of North Vietnam, they wanted the communist to win that war.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    So you think Truman's Containment Theory, followed up with action, and later blood and treasure, through the Truman Doctrine... you think those were just money making gambits? Not a thing else, we just wanna take and take and take, that solely it, is it?

    What was it exactly that we were going to get out of Vietnam? Exactly.

    You posit that we had no intentions of assisting peoples who wanted to stay free in countries threatened by communism, we just wanted to slide our sticky fingers inside their grimy pockets. Am guessing the cow manure is stacked up so high around your view that you can see nothing else, and that you just don't smell its "sweetness" like you used to... but who knows, people can be born without olfactory perception, I suppose. You think we had no idea what Stalin had previously done to millions in his own country, what Mao had done in his? None of that played into our decision, it was all corporate, eh?
    Pretty much. Can you name some of the US backed dictators from the same period? I can: Mobutu, Barre, Banda, Eyadema, Boigny, El-Sadat, Smith, Selassie, Tubman, Franco, Oliviera, Osorio, Duvalier. That's just off the top of my head. The premise that we "cared" about the "freedom" of the Vietnamese people is absolutely ignorant. We cared about them having a pro-US government willing to sell off its country to the biggest game in town. We didn't care about them being free. To claim the opposite in the face of the evidence available is ridiculous. We supported dictators. We allowed them to massacre their own people as long as US companies had access to resources.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Yea, you are brilliant, thanks for the enlightenment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    How about all those amnestees? And Carter only pretends to be a good man, apparently fools some, not most.

    I think you just don't understand people who may be a bit more clever than you. No need for anybody to be a hater of this side for that, tho.
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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    She may have not personally killed anyone but her words and actions cause GIs to die....Why do you take her word and not the word of the MOH and other highly decorated GIs. They were there not you. I doubt you ever served your country.
    Dude. I've told you this already.

    The POWs that supposedly got ratted out and beaten? They said that story was fake.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    INDEED!!! She betrayed the trust of POW's and most likely caused the death of several. She deserves to die by firing squad... with no blindfold.
    No she didn't. Those POWs themselves said that story was fake.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Alrighty. So yet you have no proof. If she was treasonous.. Simple, she would been tried for treason!
    Timothy Geitner evaded taxes. Was he prosecuted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: America's top UN diplomat has high praise for 'Hanoi Jane' [W:306]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No she didn't. Those POWs themselves said that story was fake.
    She's a treasonous whore. I hope I out liver her sorry ass, so I can piss on her grave.

    I don't expect people who are Communist sympathizers to see anything wrong with her conduct.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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