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LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

And telling the truth when the truth needs to be told does nothing but mute it...

Quit being an armchair QB....

Yeah.... you're going to have to explain to me how that makes sense in the context of what you are responding to...
 
Yeah.... you're going to have to explain to me how that makes sense in the context of what you are responding to...

Yeah, that's going to be difficult...

What does the mule say to the elephant when it crosses the road?
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

years ago, a young attorney at a top law firm here in town was fired. he claimed he was fired after he designated his boyfriend as his beneficiary on his firm's life insurance policy. The firm defended saying that this young gay attorney was spending too many hours on pro bono cases-often cases that were in contradiction to the interests of the firm's biggest clients.

well I knew this guy since he was active in the ACLU and in abortion rights (where my mother was a well known advocate)

the senior partner was an elderly gentleman who had been around for years. Very conservative. his locker at the club was near mine: he had represented my father's firm for decades

so I went up to him

Sir, is it true that Mr. G was fired for being gay?

Son, if that boy was as good an attorney as his ACLU and other leftwing friends said he is, he'd be welcome to have sex with a Giraffe in my private office anytime he liked

the firm won the lawsuit.

While I have no doubt you are telling the truth, your situation is just one. There is fraud in many cases regarding almost anything whether it be dealing with right or left views.

Unless you are preprared to say that absolutely no gay people have been fired for being gay, then I'm not sure what your ONE situation has to do with anything.

People that are LGBT should not be fired just because they are that. I don't think Christians should be fired just because they are Christian even though I don't agree with their "lifestyle" fully.
 
Call me a realist but:


Boys are born with a penis and girls are born with the vagina... I suppose that concept is too crazy and complicated for progressives...

thank you for this post that exposes how severely uneducated your posts are about this topic, facts, human and medical science and psychology


its stunning


theres nothing "realist" about your post at all its pure ignorance and science and facts totally disagree with you

You see - you agree to a point - not 100%....

There is no individual in this world that has full "junk" that has an excuse to believe their "junk" is wrong...


WOW, thank you for doubling down on a post that is absurdly topically uneducated and factually false, a post so factually wrong is very comical. ANd what makes it factually wrong? medical science and physiology.

but please feel free to tell us more of your factually wrong opinions.

maybe you can share with us how you come up with this wrong info and think it to be true?
 
WOW, thank you for doubling down on a post that is absurdly topically uneducated and factually false, a post so factually wrong is very comical. ANd what makes it factually wrong? medical science and physiology.

but please feel free to tell us more of your factually wrong opinions.

maybe you can share with us how you come up with this wrong info and think it to be true?

You have really strange concepts about what is "factual" and what isn't. If you cannot accept that girls are born with a vagina and boys with penises and cannot accept that as factual, I really don't want to know what you consider "fact" in your alternate reality. True, on some very rare occasions a child is born with both, but that is gender confused and does not negate what he said.
 
The presence of abuse is not an excuse for increasing it.

Some people just refuse to see that forcing their views on others and controlling individuals behavior as abuse. Unless of course it is them that are being forced to accept something, then the whine and bitch to high heaven.

The Government should not act in a prejudicial way. However, the government should never force a compliant behavior upon any particular individual. Forcing business to accept employees or customers based upon race, religion, etc, is abuse.
 
1.)You have really strange concepts about what is "factual" and what isn't.
2.) If you cannot accept that girls are born with a vagina and boys with penises and cannot accept that as factual, I really don't want to know what you consider "fact" in your alternate reality. True, on some very rare occasions a child is born with both, but that is gender confused and does not negate what he said.

1.) no i only go with facts and truths
2.) thats not what was claimed, thanks for showing you have no clue what was being discussed
3.) again go back and read so you can see that you factually are wrong about what is being discussed

here ill help you, the statement was this:
"There is no individual in this world that has full "junk" that has an excuse to believe their "junk" is wrong..."

see that last part, understand it, its important, the claim is being made that if a person is born with a penis thats that, they have a penis and are a boy and arent allowed to feel any other way. He has no power to tell people they cant believe thier :junk" is wrong and the fact is many people do believe that and its not an excuse

his statment was 100% factually false as proven by the medical science and physiology communities

your mistake as usual, and no need to thank me for educating you on your mistake but you are welcome
 
1.) no i only go with facts and truths
2.) thats not what was claimed, thanks for showing you have no clue what was being discussed
3.) again go back and read so you can see that you factually are wrong about what is being discussed

here ill help you, the statement was this:
"There is no individual in this world that has full "junk" that has an excuse to believe their "junk" is wrong..."

see that last part, understand it, its important, the claim is being made that if a person is born with a penis thats that, they have a penis and are a boy and arent allowed to feel any other way. He has no power to tell people they cant believe thier :junk" is wrong and the fact is many people do believe that and its not an excuse

his statment was 100% factually false as proven by the medical science and physiology communities

your mistake as usual, and no need to thank me for educating you on your mistake but you are welcome

If you were referring to something else, then perhaps you should of quoted that instead of what you did. Your comments were indeed non-factual based upon what you quoted.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

People that are LGBT should not be fired just because they are that. I don't think Christians should be fired just because they are Christian even though I don't agree with their "lifestyle" fully.

Agreed. In the vast majority of circumstances, they shouldn't be. People also shouldn't be mean to each other, or lie.


Oh. And they also shouldn't try to use the coercive power of the state on each other when they find out that life isn't always fair.
 
1.)If you were referring to something else, then perhaps you should of quoted that instead of what you did.
2.) Your comments were indeed non-factual based upon what you quoted.

1.)i did quote that lol, your post fails again, read post 305 slower this time and read all the qoutes and also see the context those quotes

post 305 where i in fact did quote exactly what i just posted proves your post wrong

prehaps you should pay attention and actually read what is being talked about and you wont make these mistakes

2.) nope see #1

your mistake again, and just like last time no need to thank me for educating you on your mistake but you are welcome . . . .
 
1.)i did quote that lol, your post fails again, read post 305 slower this time and read all the qoutes and also see the context those quotes

post 305 where i in fact did quote exactly what i just posted proves your post wrong

prehaps you should pay attention and actually read what is being talked about and you wont make these mistakes

2.) nope see #1

your mistake again, and just like last time no need to thank me for educating you on your mistake but you are welcome . . . .

Strange that you seem to be the only poster that people have these problems with. Is it really a problem with us or you?
 
Strange that you seem to be the only poster that people have these problems with. Is it really a problem with us or you?

LMAO its funny you think you are in "us"
tell me who are these people you are referring too? nobody honest, objective and respected
in fact can you list ONE that is with you and that was factually right when i proved otherwise . . . . . . one . . . . .
cute deflection though

also i guess this means you realized your post was factually wrong and all you have now is failed deflections and failed personal attacks, awesome!
typical move by certain people when their posts fail

getting back on topic do you agree with the proven wrong statement or not?

do people believe their junk is wrong?
can people believe their junk is wrong?

and is this just a frivolous belief they are making up or is it driven by medical science and psychological facts that in deed make their junk wrong, per their mental construction/hard wiring.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

People that are LGBT should not be fired just because they are that. I don't think Christians should be fired just because they are Christian even though I don't agree with their "lifestyle" fully.

I totally disagree. The owner should be allowed to hire or fire entirely based upon his/her own desires and the government should not be involved in the process at all.
 
1.)i did quote that lol, your post fails again, read post 305 slower this time and read all the qoutes and also see the context those quotes

post 305 where i in fact did quote exactly what i just posted proves your post wrong

prehaps you should pay attention and actually read what is being talked about and you wont make these mistakes

2.) nope see #1

your mistake again, and just like last time no need to thank me for educating you on your mistake but you are welcome . . . .

I did reread it and I still come to the conclusion that you are completely wrong based upon what is presented in that post. His post, as you quoted it, was indeed factual but you called him uneducated on the subject. Other than calling him that, you in no way proved his ignorance or even attempted to.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

Agreed. In the vast majority of circumstances, they shouldn't be. People also shouldn't be mean to each other, or lie.


Oh. And they also shouldn't try to use the coercive power of the state on each other when they find out that life isn't always fair.

Well when conservatives actually stop whining about "war on Christmas" or "War on Christians" I'll take what you say to heart.
 
1.)I did reread it and I still come to the conclusion that you are completely wrong based upon what is presented in that post.
2.) His post, as you quoted it, was indeed factual but you called him uneducated on the subject.
3.) Other than calling him that, you in no way proved his ignorance or even attempted to.

1.) your conclusion is factual wrong as already proven, his statement is 100% factually false
2.) see 1#
3.) see 1#

the medical science and psychology communities all prove him wrong

sorry this fact bothers you, my guess is its also why you are dodging the questions in post 313

we'll wait
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

I totally disagree. The owner should be allowed to hire or fire entirely based upon his/her own desires and the government should not be involved in the process at all.

Fine, when the laws are changed to include just that I'll support them, but for now they aren't so I support LGBT groups being added to that protection.

When conservatives work to undo the protections THEY want "i.e. not being able to be fired for being a conservative, Christian, or pro-choice", then I'll buy into that rhetoric of letting people be fired for whatever reason.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

Fine, when the laws are changed to include just that I'll support them, but for now they aren't so I support LGBT groups being added to that protection.

When conservatives work to undo the protections THEY want "i.e. not being able to be fired for being a conservative, Christian, or pro-choice", then I'll buy into that rhetoric of letting people be fired for whatever reason.

I don't.

It is said that during the reign of Genghis Khan, a virgin with a chest of gold could move freely without guards or fear of being molested. The day after he died, virgins and gold were once again guarded.

The point being that while you can force compliance with a behavior, such force does not change human behavior. We have had anti-discrimination laws for over 50 years now and we still "need" them because despite forcing compliance, we have not actually changed anything about human behavior. It is my believe that not only are these many prejudices not ended, but are increased by the animosity and hatred of being forced to behave in a particular manor.

In the former Yugoslavia, Serbs, Muslims and others were forced to behave and not act upon their prejudices for over 50 years. The first thing they did once the force forcing the behavior upon them disappeared, the different groups went into genocidal frenzies against each other. No prejudices were ended. No change was made in human behavior.

Forced compliance simply does not work and we should not be pursuing more forced compliance but removing it and seeking other means to end prejudice.
 
1.) your conclusion is factual wrong as already proven, his statement is 100% factually false
2.) see 1#
3.) see 1#

the medical science and psychology communities all prove him wrong

sorry this fact bothers you, my guess is its also why you are dodging the questions in post 313

we'll wait


The medical community has proven that boys are not born with a penis or girls with a vagina, wow, really, what link do you have that actually proves that?

Psychology proves absolutely nothing as the majority of it is based upon consensus, not scientific provable facts. Psychology is not a science.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

I don't.

<insert Ghangis and Yugoslavia reference which has nothing to do with topic>

Forced compliance simply does not work and we should not be pursuing more forced compliance but removing it and seeking other means to end prejudice.

Good, YOU don't. When conservatives as a whole work to remove protections THEY want (i.e. protections of being Christian, etc.) then we'll talk. Until then, there's you, (which no offense) means jack **** as a whole. So no, I don't buy your schtick and will fully support adding LGBT to the list until the majority of conservatives work to remove ALL protections. Then we can talk.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

Good, YOU don't. When conservatives as a whole work to remove protections THEY want (i.e. protections of being Christian, etc.) then we'll talk. Until then, there's you, (which no offense) means jack **** as a whole. So no, I don't buy your schtick and will fully support adding LGBT to the list until the majority of conservatives work to remove ALL protections. Then we can talk.

That's not what you told me. :(
 
1.)The medical community has proven that boys are not born with a penis or girls with a vagina, wow, really, what link do you have that actually proves that?

2.) Psychology proves absolutely nothing as the majority of it is based upon consensus, not scientific provable facts. Psychology is not a science.

1.) nice try that wasnt the discussion, your post fails again
2.) ill let them know you feel that way

still dodging the questions i see, VERY VERY TELLING and extremely hilarious


fact is transgenders and gender dysphoria exists and he was wrong

let us know when those facts change, id love to read about it
 
1.) nice try that wasnt the discussion, your post fails again
2.) ill let them know you feel that way

still dodging the questions i see, VERY VERY TELLING and extremely hilarious


fact is transgenders and gender dysphoria exists and he was wrong

let us know when those facts change, id love to read about it

PROVE YOUR "FACTS". I am challenging your claim, now prove or don't and prove that your are just blowing smoke out your ass and not actually saying anything factual. You claimed his statement about boys being born with a penis and girls with a vagina is false based upon medical knowledge, present the sources of your knowledge. Prove it.
 
1.)PROVE YOUR "FACTS". I am challenging your claim, now prove or don't and prove that your are just blowing smoke out your ass and not actually saying anything factual.
2.) You claimed his statement about boys being born with a penis and girls with a vagina is false based upon medical knowledge, present the sources of your knowledge. Prove it.

1.) already did unless you are claiming transgenders and gender dysphoria doesnt exist. lol

2.) nope not what i claimed ever,this never happened but please continue to sell this lie maybe somebody will believe you one day
this is awesome! please dont stop

fact is transgenders and gender dysphoria exists
let us know when those facts change, id love to read about it
 
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