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LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

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Duh! These are politicians we're talking about, Harry Reid included. However, once again and you should know this by now, IF the house allows a floor vote, even if the vote defeats the measure, the senate will then be free to take it up again. Only by refusing a floor vote in the house does the house prevent the senate from running over them, bypassing them.

In what universe is letting the house vote on a bill bypassing the house?

Welcome to my signature.
 
then i guess the house has no qualms with doing the very same harry reid does the same thing in the senate.

Reid won't bring bills to the floor.....The house will bring the bill to the floor and it will be soundly defeated.........Big difference my left wing friend.
 
they could have done the same thing by holding a vote and have all republicans vote no, why did they not try that.

Nope. Holding a floor vote would be stupid politically for the republicans. This way, next election, depending on whom they are talking to at the moment, they can claim either side of the issue.
 
In what universe is letting the house vote on a bill bypassing the house?

In this one, the one you've apparently been ignoring. If the house takes a vote, the senate may revisit the issue (senate rules), if they do not allow it to the floor, the issue is dead. This is why Reid kept calling for a CR to make the house floor vote in the shutdown debate, even though he knew it would be defeated. Also why the house changed their rule and kept it from coming to a floor vote.

Are you not reading these threads? It's been explained over and over again.
 
Reid won't bring bills to the floor.....The house will bring the bill to the floor and it will be soundly defeated.........Big difference my left wing friend.
I hope they do go on the record as being in favor of employment discrimination.

Nope. Holding a floor vote would be stupid politically for the republicans. This way, next election, depending on whom they are talking to at the moment, they can claim either side of the issue.
At least you admit this is purely for the sake of hiding their political beliefs from the electorate.
They will I promise you.
Clownboy disagrees :)
 
I hope they do go on the record as being in favor of employment discrimination.

You mean in favor of peoples rights. Get it right.
 
In this one, the one you've apparently been ignoring. If the house takes a vote, the senate may revisit the issue (senate rules), if they do not allow it to the floor, the issue is dead. This is why Reid kept calling for a CR to make the house floor vote, even though he knew it would be defeated. Also why the house changed their rule and kept it from coming to a floor vote.

Are you not reading these threads? It's been explained over and over again.

so rather then take any position on the bill, they would rather kill the bill and never address the issue at all?

again the house republicans are cowards.
 
In this one, the one you've apparently been ignoring. If the house takes a vote, the senate may revisit the issue (senate rules), if they do not allow it to the floor, the issue is dead. This is why Reid kept calling for a CR to make the house floor vote in the shutdown debate, even though he knew it would be defeated. Also why the house changed their rule and kept it from coming to a floor vote.

Are you not reading these threads? It's been explained over and over again.

I know what you said. This doesn't bypass anything. You have a misunderstanding of what the word bypass means.

But I think you're wrong about what the GOP house will do. Enough Republicans have already voted for this bill that they really can't just ignore this and hope it goes away.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

The problem is it will be abused. employees who are fired because of incompetence will claim they were fired because they are gay. No one should be fired because of their sexuality but and employer should have the right to fire or hire someone as needed....Good luck it passing in the HOR.

This mantra has been spouted, repeatedly, with all other changes...."They will all pull the <insert discriminatory name here> card!" race, gender, religion, national origin, etc...

Has it happened? Of course. Will it happen, again, of course. BUT, any manager/supervisor worth their salt will have all their ducks in a row BEFORE they fire someone. That is the way the modern world works.
 
so rather then take any position on the bill, they would rather kill the bill and never address the issue at all?

again the house republicans are cowards.

Why address it? The bill is a violation of human rights. It deserves to be ignored.
 
the right to discriminate?

He's probably one of those people who thinks a law like this makes it illegal to fire a gay person, or that it forces you to hire a gay person.
 
so rather then take any position on the bill, they would rather kill the bill and never address the issue at all?

again the house republicans are cowards.

Just stop with the Hypocrisy .... How many bills did Pelosi let die without them ever seeing the light of day? Standard practice from every Speaker throughout history!

I am not even a republican, but, your trolling was just too annoying to ignore.
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

Here you go. Just because you don't believe it does not mean that it doesn't happen. There should be laws on the books to stop this kind of non-sense.

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Yea, everyone fired thinks its because of something else. Like not being worth a crap at their job.
 
the right to discriminate?

If that is how you want to see it, yeah. It's actually the right to association, the right to property, and the right to ones labor/service.
 
so rather then take any position on the bill, they would rather kill the bill and never address the issue at all?

again the house republicans are cowards.

Hah! ALL politicians have done this, likely several times in their careers. Have you never seen or been to a polician's meet and greet during election ramp ups? They show them all the time now on C-SPAN before presidential elections. It allows them to say with a straight face that they would have voted for/against whatever issue or bill we're talking about, depending upon how a vote for/against would play with that local crowd.
 
He's probably one of those people who thinks a law like this makes it illegal to fire a gay person, or that it forces you to hire a gay person.

No, it just makes it so you can't deny someone for that reason. Guess what? I have the right to do that. It's my business, my property, my resources, and my mother****ing call on who I will associate with, how long I will do, and for what reason I do so. I don't care if people think my right is fair. They have no right to be on my property, to get my service, to force me to associate with them, or to be employed.
 
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AWESOME!!!!!

but it will probably be short lived due to bigtory and the support of discrimination in the house.


always funny though to see the bigots and or people that support discrimination get so scared and rally to deny fellow Americans the same rights, equality and or protections they have and then dishonestly lie about it and say its different lol.

Its ok though equal rights for gays is coming its going to be a reality so the bigots and discrimination supporters are scared
15 states and DC have it now and a total of 32 states could have it in 18 months to 2 years.

15 states and DC have equal rights:

California
Connecticut
Delaware
Illinois (ADDED Yesterday)
Iowa
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New York
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington

17 more are in various stages of fighting or establishing a fight for equal rights

New Mexico – is granting equal rights for now and the SSC is going to decided on this soon

Court Case(s) in the works to establish equal rights:
Arkansas
Kentucky
Michigan
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Utah
Virginia

Court Case(s) and Legislation in the works, which ever wins first:
Arizona
Hawaii
Nevada
Ohio


Legislation in the works:
Colorado
Florida
Oregon

thats 32 states
 
Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

Yea, everyone fired thinks its because of something else. Like not being worth a crap at their job.

If you want to ignore reality that's up to you, but don't be mad at the ones living in the real world.
 
No, it just makes it so you can't deny someone for that reason. Guess what? I have the right to do that. It's my business, my property, my resources, and my mother****ing call on who I will associate with.

LoL. Calm down old yeller.
 
LoL. Calm down old yeller.

No, I will not. I'm tried of tyrants thinking they have the high ground. They have nothing.
 
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No, it just makes it so you can't deny someone for that reason. Guess what? I have the right to do that. It's my business, my property, my resources, and my mother****ing call on who I will associate with, how long I will do, and for what reason I do so. I don't care if people think my right is fair. They have no right to be on my property, to get my service, to force me to associate with them, or to be employed.

I bet a gay person works with you.
 
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