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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    If you dont like peoples rights, the law and the rules that public access buisness plays by then dont open one, nobody is forcing you, basic common sense
    Oh right, because I can just not open a business of my choosing without following laws that violate my rights. Thanks for the advice. I like how I'm supposed to restrict my liberty, so my rights aren't violated by the state. Great advice. Thanks. Got any other brilliant arguments?

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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    If you dont like peoples rights, the law and the rules that public access buisness plays by then dont open one, nobody is forcing you, basic common sense

    if you think your opinions/philosophies are more important the law, rights and facts simply open that type of business, break the law and see what happens.

    ALso let us know so we can read the story and laugh.
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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Democracy did what? I'm sorry, but what was the public support of the 1964 bill when it passed? What did people think of public accommodations in 1964? For that matter, what do people think of them today? Here is a hint: You are not the majority and never were. Stop thinking you are.
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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If this bill is approved in HOR all you have to say is I am gay whether you are or not to get a job or if you are fired..
    No, discrimination lawsuits don't work like that.

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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, you don't. Your so called right declaration is in violation of my rights. You do not have the right to enter my propertyy, you do not have the right to service, and you damn well do not have the right to employment. I have the right to ignore your ass, throw you off my property, the right decide not to hire you, and finally the right to fire you for any reason I damn well please. It's my property, and my service you are dealing with. You have no rights on the table. Get off my property.
    That didn't work out too well with those pesky black people, did it?
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    Re: Senate passes LGBT anti-discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The problem is it will be abused. employees who are fired because of incompetence will claim they were fired because they are gay. No one should be fired because of their sexuality but and employer should have the right to fire or hire someone as needed.....
    This is a legitimate concern, but the same applies to antidiscrimination laws in general. Somebody fired because of incompetence can raise a lot of stink claiming that they were fired for being black, or female, or Hare Krishna. Gays need protection from discrimination as much as other groups - why should they be left out?

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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, discrimination lawsuits don't work like that.
    Sorry but I have seen it happen.......just the threat forced and employer to keep and individual who was incompetent but said it was because he was gay.....The employer did not want the law suit so he kept the guy on......It was not even law.
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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    1.)Oh right, because I can just not open a business of my choosing without following laws that violate my rights.
    2.) Thanks for the advice.
    3.) I like how I'm supposed to restrict my liberty, so my rights aren't violated by the state.
    4.) Great advice.
    5.) Thanks.
    6.) Got any other brilliant arguments?
    1.) no you are free to open it you just simply must play by the same rules as everybody else not break the law and violate real rights. Your FACTUALY rights are intact just like everybody elses. Your opinion of rights being violated is meaningless.
    2.) your welcome, I like to point out facts and common sense for people
    3.) has nothgin to so with "you" again thhis is part ofd your fantasies, opinions and philosophies and not part of reality and facts.
    4.) I know the vast majority understand that you cant break the law and violate rights
    5.) again, you are welcome, always glad when i can help out no matter how blatantley obvious the reality and facts are
    6.) well following common sense and not breaking the law is smart, not sure its brilliant thats giving it to much credit

    as far as "arguments" i havent presented any "arguments" just pointed out the facts that disagree with your OPINIONS and PHILOSOPHIES

    the solution to you problem is easy, dont break the law and violate the rights of others

    hope that works out for you

    again if not and you CHOOSE to break the law lets us know so we can read about it and laugh
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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, you don't. Your so called right declaration is in violation of my rights. You do not have the right to enter my propertyy, you do not have the right to service, and you damn well do not have the right to employment. I have the right to ignore your ass, throw you off my property, the right decide not to hire you, and finally the right to fire you for any reason I damn well please. It's my property, and my service you are dealing with. You have no rights on the table. Get off my property.
    The law disagrees with you. If you run a business, you should not have the right to deny service to someone based on their race, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc. Those are the laws that you agree to when opening a business.
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    re: LGBT Non-Discrimation Vote Passes Senate [W:215]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Sorry but I have seen it happen.......just the threat forced and employer to keep and individual who was incompetent but said it was because he was gay.....The employer did not want the law suit so he kept the guy on......It was not even law.
    That very last bit tells the whole story. HR departments are like actuaries, they do risk assessment. The passage of this won't affect that either way.

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