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Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

US Conservative said:
Ive already stated what will improve schools-being held to a standard, and competition.
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yea, you have nothing
we could make schools "better", yea, that's the ticket
come back when you actually have something constructive to offer
 
US Conservative said:
I think perhaps some reading or maybe community college class might be elucidating.
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yes, they must be good schools because of all the "competition"
because to us conservative "competition" makes schools better. whatever the hell that means
 
justabubba said:
yes, they must be good schools because of all the "competition"
because to us conservative "competition" makes schools better. whatever the hell that means
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Competition makes most things better.

A govt that does not have to deliver a responsive, quality product means lower standards, outcomes, and higher costs.
 
US Conservative said:
Competition makes most things better.

A govt that does not have to deliver a responsive, quality product means lower standards, outcomes, and higher costs.
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and nothing telling us what would actually make schools better. next
 
US Conservative said:
Competition makes most things better.

A govt that does not have to deliver a responsive, quality product means lower standards, outcomes, and higher costs.
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The higher costs in providing the technology to equip each public school the means for the "testing" is quite a burden on most school districts.

The curriculum is quite dumbed down. Far inferior to that which is in many "charter" schools across this country that provide a more "liberal arts" approach.

I've never seen anything in my lifetime that has united such disdain against something as I have with Common Core. You have teachers in public and private schools speaking out against it. You have unions and non-unions uniting against this thing. This curriculum has managed to unite libertarians, conservatives and left of center on this issue.

It has got to go! And I wish those on the right that promote school vouchers, private education etc. etc. would stop endorsing this piece of crap idea. (Hello Jeb Bush and Mike Huckleberry) For the very things they claim to support, Common Core destroys.
 
US Conservative said:
In other words you prefer to spread misinformation. :)
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no. those were not the words i used, nor what was conveyed
but i have come to expect your posts to reflect a lack of understanding
however, that is then compensated by an incredible display of ignorance
 
US Conservative said:
Like how competition is a good thing. Got it.
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Chile also believed competition would be good for them. Perhaps, it was good in the sense that some children could escape schools where there was large pools of disadvantaged but it didn't take care of that "disadvantaged" problem. Their schools became more stratified not less. It also did nothing for aggregate academic outcomes.

"In sum, the central effect of the school voucher program in Chile appears to have been to facilitate the exodus of the Chilean middle class from public schools, without much evidence that it has improved aggregate academic outcomes." http://www.columbia.edu/~msu2101/HsiehUrquiola(2006).pdf
 
justabubba said:
looking forward to us conservative's 'insights' into that question. would want to see her flesh out her remarks - if such is possible

now to your posts. under leave no child behind, if the school a student was attending was found to be failing, based on the poor student performance tests after three years, that student was eligible to attend another school, even if that school was not in the student's attendance district. at least, that's how it was implemented in my berg
sounds reasonable, doesn't it. kids should not have to attend under-performing schools
the problem is, once the initial three years of testing was up, LOTS of kids' parents were lined up to move their kids to another school, to avoid their under-performing home school. but here is the fly in the ointment: there were no non-failing schools with openings. those kids from failing schools could only move to other failing schools. so much for your (and us conservative's) 'competitive' aspect of public education
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And there is the problem then isn't it? I mean Why at that point does your community not get up in arms and demand to know what the hell is going on there?
 
Deuce said:
This worksheet is in no way related to Common Core.
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I'm late to this discussion, but the lack of knowledge on the subject in the OP and the wild leap are hard to take too seriously.
 
j-mac said:
And there is the problem then isn't it? I mean Why at that point does your community not get up in arms and demand to know what the hell is going on there?
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You might find that the problem is more than just the schools, but the community. Many factors likely play into this and trying to narrow it to one is often a flawed approach.

It should also be noted that NCLB was always destined to rank all schools as failing schools. In fact, the best way to avoid that ranking was to dumb everything down so much that failure was impossible. This was hardly an elevation.
 
j-mac said:
And there is the problem then isn't it? I mean Why at that point does your community not get up in arms and demand to know what the hell is going on there?
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while there is some organized opposition it appears insubstantial for one primary reason: those in positions of power and authority to effect change tend not to live in districts where the schools are terrible
so, who is speaking for the kids who have only a ****ty school option - very few - and even then they are without powerful voices. this is not unlike the separate but "equal" schools when segregation was tolerated. those students stuck in the inferior schools were not allowed access to the 'good' [read "white" and that remains true today] schools because they and their parents had no political power in the community
 
Boo Radley said:
I'm late to this discussion, but the lack of knowledge on the subject in the OP and the wild leap are hard to take too seriously.
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Except Deuce isn't correct. All curriculum has to be aligned to Common Core Standards if you're in one of the 45 states that has adopted them.
 
US Conservative said:
Competition makes most things better.

A govt that does not have to deliver a responsive, quality product means lower standards, outcomes, and higher costs.
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and I've already described how competition could help improve the schools, but then, I'm just a lefty whose side doesn't want kids to learn basic math.

Right, conservative?
 
Josie said:
Except Deuce isn't correct. All curriculum has to be aligned to Common Core Standards if you're in one of the 45 states that has adopted them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gina prove that states did not have to adhere 100% to the CC standards?

ISTR her showing that they were encouraged to not deviate by more than 15%
 
sangha said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gina prove that states did not have to adhere 100% to the CC standards?

ISTR her showing that they were encouraged to not deviate by more than 15%
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Actually the informational video I posted mentioned it days before Gina did.

Curriculum companies are creating and/or modifying their products to be aligned with Common Core. Every single lesson in the teacher's manual has a CCSS attached to it. Now a district can choose what to teach out of that manual, but the companies who create these giant, expensive programs create them to be totally aligned with the Common Core. To say that the lesson from Pearson's Reading Street "is in no way related to Common Core" is ignorant.
 
Josie said:
Actually the informational video I posted mentioned it days before Gina did.

Curriculum companies are creating and/or modifying their products to be aligned with Common Core. Every single lesson in the teacher's manual has a CCSS attached to it. Now a district can choose what to teach out of that manual, but the companies who create these giant, expensive programs create them to be totally aligned with the Common Core.
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I see. We have another instance of you falsely claiming that schools can't deviate at all from CC, and then when called on it you talk out the other side of your mouth and admit that they can deviate from CC (while pretending that is what you said from the start)


To say that the lesson from Pearson's Reading Street "is in no way related to Common Core" is ignorant.
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I said nothing about Pearson's Reading Street.
 
sangha said:
I said nothing about Pearson's Reading Street.
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I didn't say you did. The worksheet from the OP is from Pearson's Reading Street curriculum.
 
Josie said:
I didn't say you did. The worksheet from the OP is from Pearson's Reading Street curriculum.
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Could you confirm whether or not it is a real worksheet, or just something someone cobbled together to make a "public schools are hotbeds of liberal bias" sort of point?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Could you confirm whether or not it is a real worksheet, or just something someone cobbled together to make a "public schools are hotbeds of liberal bias" sort of point?
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Well, it looks exactly like our 1st grade Reading Street worksheets and 5th grade Reading Street has a story called "Hold the Flag High" so I'm assuming it's authentic. If it wasn't, there are tons of districts using this program and lots of 5th grade teachers out there. Have you heard of any 5th grade Reading Street teachers who say it's fabricated?
 
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A Pearson spokesperson told FoxNews.com the “Hold the Flag High” worksheet will undergo some editing of its own, based on issues raised by critics, including Education Action Group Foundation.

“These particular questions appear in a fifth-grade unit of Pearson’s Reading Street, an English Language Arts program,” the Pearson official said. “They accompany a selection about soldiers during the Civil War, and they attempt to make a connection between that passage and language skills. As with all our curricular materials, they underwent a thorough development and review process. Still, we are always open to improving our work … Based on this feedback, we will be modifying the worksheet to clarify these questions.”
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