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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, you implied it when you stated,
    Well, it's a tough job for sure. I mean listening to entrenched union teachers, enjoying they tenure, and coasting through their careers, coupled with having the daunting task of convincing their parents that although they pay through the nose in taxes to support education, that it isn't enough and that we should not only not look at the teachers that are failing their students, but throw ever increasing amounts of money at the problem, because Lord knows the answer to every problem, every failure, every debacle is to throw more money at it.
    Much of what is translated to a board like this doesn't really capture the thoughts correctly. In any case, I don't think you are understanding the context, or maybe I don't understand what you mean. As Ditto said, you need to explain it further.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well many states have caps on how much money can be provided for educational costs while at the same time these new mandates being passed down by Race to Top are costly and many of these costs either get passed down in the form of layoffs or local communities voting to fund them through taxes. Teachers never advocated for these costs.
    But their unions do through support of the people that institute them.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    But their unions do through support of the people that institute them.
    No they don't nor do the unions support the people who institute them.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No they don't nor do the unions support the people who institute them.
    How much money did the NEA funnel to the Obama campaign? Do you know?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But their unions do through support of the people that institute them.
    Unions support teachers and teachers did not advocate for these unfunded mandates.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How much money did the NEA funnel to the Obama campaign? Do you know?
    A "whopping" $61K!!!

    That's less than 10% of the $631K they spent in support of republican candidates

    http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000064
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A "whopping" $61K!!!

    That's less than 10% of the $631K they spent in support of republican candidates

    National Education Assn: Summary | OpenSecrets
    Oh Sangha....There is nothing more dishonest than trying to compare the donation to one candidate, to the entirety of the opposing party of candidates....

    From your link....

    Discloses Donors? YES
    Viewpoint: LIBERAL

    Independent Expenditures: $3,678,565
    For Democrats: $1,965,924
    Against Democrats: $0
    For Republicans: $631,887
    Against Republicans: $3,850,426

    Electioneering Communications: $134,191About Electioneering Communications
    Communication Costs: $2,766,991

    Good Lord....Why would you do something so easily debunked as what you typed?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Unions support teachers and teachers did not advocate for these unfunded mandates.
    They paid dues didn't they?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Oh Sangha....There is nothing more dishonest than trying to compare the donation to one candidate, to the entirety of the opposing party of candidates....

    From your link....




    Good Lord....Why would you do something so easily debunked as what you typed?
    IOW, my link shows that they gave to people on both sides of the issue.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How much money did the NEA funnel to the Obama campaign? Do you know?
    A lot of these very costly mandates were put into place under NCLB. The NEA has petition to review the lower court decision in School District of Pontiac, Mich. v. Duncan, 09-852. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court denied the petition.
    NEA - NEA disappointed in Supreme Court

    Your other comment about supporting Obama is a strawman. They did not support him because of these mandates.

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