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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
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    That made no sense whatsoever. You start out talking about one student's performance/outcome, and then switch over to talking about a school's performance/outcome. You are using the terms in a way which is inappropriate.



    Again, that is not what educators mean when they speak of improved outcomes with respect to things like NCLB and CC.
    Take this opportunity to do some reading. Im not going to waste my time any further.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I've already told you why.

    1. It has created a test centered curriculum as opposed to a student centered curriculum.
    2. The test scores don't show what they purport to show.

    and no, once again, that doesn't mean that we should not measure student achievement. It just means that we should use a accurate measures.
    Well, it's a tough job for sure. I mean listening to entrenched union teachers, enjoying they tenure, and coasting through their careers, coupled with having the daunting task of convincing their parents that although they pay through the nose in taxes to support education, that it isn't enough and that we should not only not look at the teachers that are failing their students, but throw ever increasing amounts of money at the problem, because Lord knows the answer to every problem, every failure, every debacle is to throw more money at it.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The status quo is no longer acceptable. Things are changin and teachers are on the wrong side of the argument.
    No longer is mediocrity the standard. Its too important.
    I'm going to have to disagree because what I see is that mediocrity is the standard.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, it's a tough job for sure. I mean listening to entrenched union teachers, enjoying they tenure, and coasting through their careers, coupled with having the daunting task of convincing their parents that although they pay through the nose in taxes to support education, that it isn't enough and that we should not only not look at the teachers that are failing their students, but throw ever increasing amounts of money at the problem, because Lord knows the answer to every problem, every failure, every debacle is to throw more money at it.
    and be sure to let the federal government control it as much as possible.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, it's a tough job for sure. I mean listening to entrenched union teachers, enjoying they tenure, and coasting through their careers, coupled with having the daunting task of convincing their parents that although they pay through the nose in taxes to support education, that it isn't enough and that we should not only not look at the teachers that are failing their students, but throw ever increasing amounts of money at the problem, because Lord knows the answer to every problem, every failure, every debacle is to throw more money at it.
    Why are unfunded mandates the teachers fault???

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Why are unfunded mandates the teachers fault???
    Did I say they were the individual teachers fault?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Why are unfunded mandates the teachers fault???
    You may need to explain that one. I'm not sure that anyone outside of the education community knows what the phrase even means.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did I say they were the individual teachers fault?
    Yes, you implied it when you stated,
    Well, it's a tough job for sure. I mean listening to entrenched union teachers, enjoying they tenure, and coasting through their careers, coupled with having the daunting task of convincing their parents that although they pay through the nose in taxes to support education, that it isn't enough and that we should not only not look at the teachers that are failing their students, but throw ever increasing amounts of money at the problem, because Lord knows the answer to every problem, every failure, every debacle is to throw more money at it.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You may need to explain that one. I'm not sure that anyone outside of the education community knows what the phrase even means.
    Well many states have caps on how much money can be provided for educational costs while at the same time these new mandates being passed down by Race to Top are costly and many of these costs either get passed down in the form of layoffs or local communities voting to fund them through taxes. Teachers never advocated for these costs.

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