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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no. those were not the words i used, nor what was conveyed
    but i have come to expect your posts to reflect a lack of understanding
    however, that is then compensated by an incredible display of ignorance
    Like how competition is a good thing. Got it.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Like how competition is a good thing. Got it.
    Chile also believed competition would be good for them. Perhaps, it was good in the sense that some children could escape schools where there was large pools of disadvantaged but it didn't take care of that "disadvantaged" problem. Their schools became more stratified not less. It also did nothing for aggregate academic outcomes.

    "In sum, the central effect of the school voucher program in Chile appears to have been to facilitate the exodus of the Chilean middle class from public schools, without much evidence that it has improved aggregate academic outcomes." http://www.columbia.edu/~msu2101/Hsi...iola(2006).pdf

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    looking forward to us conservative's 'insights' into that question. would want to see her flesh out her remarks - if such is possible

    now to your posts. under leave no child behind, if the school a student was attending was found to be failing, based on the poor student performance tests after three years, that student was eligible to attend another school, even if that school was not in the student's attendance district. at least, that's how it was implemented in my berg
    sounds reasonable, doesn't it. kids should not have to attend under-performing schools
    the problem is, once the initial three years of testing was up, LOTS of kids' parents were lined up to move their kids to another school, to avoid their under-performing home school. but here is the fly in the ointment: there were no non-failing schools with openings. those kids from failing schools could only move to other failing schools. so much for your (and us conservative's) 'competitive' aspect of public education
    And there is the problem then isn't it? I mean Why at that point does your community not get up in arms and demand to know what the hell is going on there?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This worksheet is in no way related to Common Core.
    I'm late to this discussion, but the lack of knowledge on the subject in the OP and the wild leap are hard to take too seriously.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And there is the problem then isn't it? I mean Why at that point does your community not get up in arms and demand to know what the hell is going on there?
    You might find that the problem is more than just the schools, but the community. Many factors likely play into this and trying to narrow it to one is often a flawed approach.

    It should also be noted that NCLB was always destined to rank all schools as failing schools. In fact, the best way to avoid that ranking was to dumb everything down so much that failure was impossible. This was hardly an elevation.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And there is the problem then isn't it? I mean Why at that point does your community not get up in arms and demand to know what the hell is going on there?
    while there is some organized opposition it appears insubstantial for one primary reason: those in positions of power and authority to effect change tend not to live in districts where the schools are terrible
    so, who is speaking for the kids who have only a ****ty school option - very few - and even then they are without powerful voices. this is not unlike the separate but "equal" schools when segregation was tolerated. those students stuck in the inferior schools were not allowed access to the 'good' [read "white" and that remains true today] schools because they and their parents had no political power in the community
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm late to this discussion, but the lack of knowledge on the subject in the OP and the wild leap are hard to take too seriously.
    Except Deuce isn't correct. All curriculum has to be aligned to Common Core Standards if you're in one of the 45 states that has adopted them.


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Competition makes most things better.

    A govt that does not have to deliver a responsive, quality product means lower standards, outcomes, and higher costs.
    and I've already described how competition could help improve the schools, but then, I'm just a lefty whose side doesn't want kids to learn basic math.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Except Deuce isn't correct. All curriculum has to be aligned to Common Core Standards if you're in one of the 45 states that has adopted them.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gina prove that states did not have to adhere 100% to the CC standards?

    ISTR her showing that they were encouraged to not deviate by more than 15%
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gina prove that states did not have to adhere 100% to the CC standards?

    ISTR her showing that they were encouraged to not deviate by more than 15%
    Actually the informational video I posted mentioned it days before Gina did.

    Curriculum companies are creating and/or modifying their products to be aligned with Common Core. Every single lesson in the teacher's manual has a CCSS attached to it. Now a district can choose what to teach out of that manual, but the companies who create these giant, expensive programs create them to be totally aligned with the Common Core. To say that the lesson from Pearson's Reading Street "is in no way related to Common Core" is ignorant.


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