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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, the business model came from them. It is also advocated by them.

    Here is one example: The Business Model : Education Next

    These are corporate reformers.
    I can't say Im surprised, but I didn't expect you to blame it on corporatism. Thats a new one.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I can't say Im surprised, but I didn't expect you to blame it on corporatism. Thats a new one.
    It's not at all a new one. You are just ill informed on the topic.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's not at all a new one. You are just ill informed on the topic.
    Probably. Im not hip on all the teacher excuses.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Probably. Im not hip on all the teacher excuses.
    It's a fact not an excuse. If you would like to better inform yourself, this gives a brief history of business involvement in school reform.

    http://epsl.asu.edu/epru/articles/EPRU-0205-59-OWI.pdf

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Probably. Im not hip on all the teacher excuses.
    Lot of rightwingers are complaining about it too

    Maybe you should learn about the issue before spouting off.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, high school students may not get a diploma if they don't show proficiency.
    That's the exit exam.

    At all other levels, it doesn't matter to the student how well or how poorly he does on the test. That's why the results are not reliable.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's the exit exam.

    At all other levels, it doesn't matter to the student how well or how poorly he does on the test. That's why the results are not reliable.
    We still need to find a way to measure that teachers are actually getting results....This thread so far seems to be long on excuses from the education circles on why our system is failing, and surprisingly not a lot of it has to do with teachers, why, color me shocked that those experiencing scrutiny want to deflect it away from themselves.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We still need to find a way to measure that teachers are actually getting results....This thread so far seems to be long on excuses from the education circles on why our system is failing, and surprisingly not a lot of it has to do with teachers, why, color me shocked that those experiencing scrutiny want to deflect it away from themselves.
    Yes, we need to find an accurate way to measure whether teachers are getting results. The way the federal government wants to mandate we go about it isn't working. No surprise there. I've suggested a system that would work already.

    I must have missed the part where teachers are making excuses about our failed system.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We still need to find a way to measure that teachers are actually getting results....This thread so far seems to be long on excuses from the education circles on why our system is failing, and surprisingly not a lot of it has to do with teachers, why, color me shocked that those experiencing scrutiny want to deflect it away from themselves.
    First, spell out "the cause". I provided proof that the US reading and mathematical scores can compete internationally only when taking poverty rates into account and making equal comparisons using that measure. Now people can argue that we haven't been doing enough to get children who live in poverty score's to match those who do not live in poverty. If you would like to blame teachers, feel free. I just need some kind of evidence to back up your accusation that teachers are the cause.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    First, spell out "the cause". I provided proof that the US reading and mathematical scores can compete internationally only when taking poverty rates into account and making equal comparisons using that measure. Now people can argue that we haven't been doing enough to get children who live in poverty score's to match those who do not live in poverty. If you would like to blame teachers, feel free. I just need some kind of evidence to back up your accusation that teachers are the cause.
    The cause? Well, I have spelled it out earlier in the thread....To me, as a parent that has successfully put two kids through school, and on to college, I would say that among the top of the list is top heavy administration that pulls in six digit salaries, sucking off resource from the schools themselves, then would come teacher apathy, IOW, we all know those teachers that don't keep hours after school, who don't answer their e-mail, who love to tell you how your child is not doing what is necessary, yet they are not invested at all, then there is the problem of tenure. I don't believe that in primary schooling tenure should be available at all. My job is performance based, so should theirs be.
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