Page 52 of 69 FirstFirst ... 242505152535462 ... LastLast
Results 511 to 520 of 684

Thread: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

  1. #511
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    05-19-18 @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,930

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Math is about more than that because it objectively represents abstraction.

    You arent doing anyone a favor by giving some credit for an incorrect answer unless you feel the test is for you and not the student.
    I'm calling this a Red herring. Who said that the CC or the PARCC allows wrong answers? Everything I've read shows the opposite. They must fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division. -CC standard

    First, any answer they give must demostrate fluency. Type II tasks call for written arguments/justifications, critique of reasoning, or precision in mathematical statements (MP. 3, 6). These tasks can also involve other mathematical practice standards. Type III tasks call for modeling/application in a real-world context or scenario (MP.4) and can also involve other mathematical practice standards. Grade 3 - Mathematics | PARCC


    A construct problem makes a student demonstrate all three tasks. Task I and III seem rational while Task II doesn't seem appropriate for most 3rd graders. It will lend a correct answer to loose points not gain them even if they knew the correct answer with fluency and could demonstrate the model in part III. Construct problems will weigh heavily on the final grade. I'm just unsure how many the test will include. Verbal arguments are not developmentally appropriate for 9 year olds IMHO. That should be reserved for older grades.

  2. #512
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 06:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I'm calling this a Red herring. Who said that the CC or the PARCC allows wrong answers? Everything I've read shows the opposite. They must fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division. -CC standard

    First, any answer they give must demostrate fluency. Type II tasks call for written arguments/justifications, critique of reasoning, or precision in mathematical statements (MP. 3, 6). These tasks can also involve other mathematical practice standards. Type III tasks call for modeling/application in a real-world context or scenario (MP.4) and can also involve other mathematical practice standards. Grade 3 - Mathematics | PARCC


    A construct problem makes a student demonstrate all three tasks. Task I and III seem rational while Task II doesn't seem appropriate for most 3rd graders. It will lend a correct answer to loose points not gain them even if they knew the correct answer with fluency and could demonstrate the model in part III. Construct problems will weigh heavily on the final grade. I'm just unsure how many the test will include. Verbal arguments are not developmentally appropriate for 9 year olds IMHO. That should be reserved for older grades.
    Read through the thread, it appears you are missing context.

  3. #513
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    05-19-18 @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,930

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Read through the thread, it appears you are missing context.
    I've read the thread and complaining about either CC or PARCC giving credit to wrong answers IS A RED HERRING. It does not.

  4. #514
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 06:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I've read the thread and complaining about either CC or PARCC giving credit to wrong answers IS A RED HERRING. It does not.
    If you have read through this you know I wasn't referring to the tests you mention. Rather I was referring to the testing of math in general.

  5. #515
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    05-19-18 @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,930

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If you have read through this you know I wasn't referring to the tests you mention. Rather I was referring to the testing of math in general.
    Well on high stake testing it does matter because students, teachers and schools will be graded and punished or rewarded on the results.

    Edit to add: Students must now be graded using CC standards so if fluency isn't there they will get a 1. Again, what happened in the past has nothing to do with CC or PARCC.

  6. #516
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    43,642

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well on high stake testing it does matter because students, teachers and schools will be graded and punished or rewarded on the results.
    Not students. Just teachers and schools.
    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

  7. #517
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    05-19-18 @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,930

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Not students. Just teachers and schools.
    Yes, high school students may not get a diploma if they don't show proficiency.

  8. #518
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 06:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well on high stake testing it does matter because students, teachers and schools will be graded and punished or rewarded on the results.

    Edit to add: Students must now be graded using CC standards so if fluency isn't there they will get a 1. Again, what happened in the past has nothing to do with CC or PARCC.
    Im no fan of govt interference, or top down control-but the achievements of public schools are horrible and unions look after themselves. At least NCLB raised scores.

    Im hearing many teachers justifying mediocrity. I think we can do better.

  9. #519
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 06:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, high school students may not get a diploma if they don't show proficiency.
    Isnt that the point of a diploma?

  10. #520
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    05-19-18 @ 08:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,930

    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Many others will be referred to Team and tested for learning disabilities. We already have teachers bringing in referrals because student cannot master a standard. Our administrator commented that we can now see how many students suffer from learning problems which I found fascinating. She didn't even consider the standards may not be appropriate for all children. Her assumption is they must be disabled.

Page 52 of 69 FirstFirst ... 242505152535462 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •