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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    no one is defending the wrong answer
    what could be learned a century ago in a one room school house is immaterial
    what has been presented is that the test instrument provides a valid indication of the student's mastery of the material if the student demonstrates knowledge of the process o solve for the answer
    such is not the case when the student merely has to select from four provided options
    So make the answer a write in, or bubble in. Hows that sound?

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    In the world the correct answer is valued.

    This isnt some mystical concept, its an objective science.
    In the real world, math is about more than that

    Like I said, there seems to be a lot about math that you don't understand.

    For example, what is the answer to this equation:

    x = y2 + 3z + 4
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In the real world, math is about more than that

    Like I said, there seems to be a lot about math that you don't understand.

    For example, what is the answer to this equation:

    x = y2 + 3z + 4
    Math is about more than that because it objectively represents abstraction.

    You arent doing anyone a favor by giving some credit for an incorrect answer unless you feel the test is for you and not the student.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So make the answer a write in, or bubble in. Hows that sound?
    which is what cc did, and what you objected to
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Math is about more than that because it objectively represents abstraction.
    Well, now you're contradicting your assertion that math is all about getting the correct answer.

    You arent doing anyone a favor by giving some credit for an incorrect answer unless you feel the test is for you and not the student.
    I don't know where you got that. It looks like you're getting desperate enough to pull things out of your ass.

    Where did I say anything about any test being for me? At my age, the only test I worry about is the prostate exam.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Well, now you're contradicting your assertion that math is all about getting the correct answer.

    I said objectively.

    I don't know where you got that. It looks like you're getting desperate enough to pull things out of your ass.

    Where did I say anything about any test being for me? At my age, the only test I worry about is the prostate exam.
    The only thing pulled out of anyones backside is the attempted justification of subjective grading of objective studies. Its not a path to competence, let alone success. Stop making excuses, our kids can rise to the occasion.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    which is what cc did, and what you objected to
    Where exactly did I object to that?

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Where exactly did I object to that?
    here:
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Perhaps partial credit might be appropriate in homework and classwork, but for tests (evaluative not formative) I disagree.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    here:
    You misunderstood. My first comments were regarding partial credit where technique was generally correct, but the answer was not.

    The second was regarding how to enter the answer on a test-multiple choice vs write/bubble in.

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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The only thing pulled out of anyones backside is the attempted justification of subjective grading of objective studies. Its not a path to competence, let alone success. Stop making excuses, our kids can rise to the occasion.
    You seem to think that adding the word "objective" somehow changes what you said. Here is what you said:

    The technique is a means to an end. That end would be the correct answer.
    As I've shown, the "end" is not a "correct answer" but understanding.

    Calling math an "objective study" is nonsense. Making up terms like "objective study" doesn't make your argument make sense
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