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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Gina, do you think an educational system that is grounded in data, testing, data, testing, documentation, more testing, more data, more testing, more documentation .... is the way to go? Did you read my story above of everything teachers are now going to have to do even for the kids who are obviously way ahead? Do you agree that this is a good thing?


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    ....which we agreed on the entire time. *facepalm*

    Can we move on to the more important negative aspects of Common Core?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Some of the white suburban comments from your link.......


    "This is the progressive movement coming in for the kill. And believe me, if we don’t stop it, this will be the kill." – Glenn Beck

    "Most of us who lived through this Hitler era remember how British Prime Minister Chamberlain gushed how great Hitler’s Youth Corps was, much like those who support Common Core today." – Donald Conkey, Cherokee Tribune

    "Remember the quote by Hitler, 'Give me your children and in 10 years I’ll change society?' The Obama administration intends to do just that." – Elois Zeanah

    "What the heck am I talking about? The end of the world? Some kind of natural disaster? Zombies? No, something even scarier: the Common Core." – David Kierski

    "If this isn't Nazism, Communism, Marxism and all the 'ism's' I don't know what is." – Christina Michas

    "Today's teachers and psychologists are NOT being trained to educate students academically or to counsel and help people cope with their problems, but to influence their political views. Does it sound like we're becoming Castro's Cuba? I can tell you from personal experience that we're already there." - New Hampshire Tea Party

    "Our kids are going to be indoctrinated with extreme leftist ideology. That should terrify most people." - Glenn Beck

    "Now they’re teaching something called Common Core. Folks, this president is emulating dictators. Do you not understand that he is not playing games? If you look at Mao Tse-tung, this boy is emulating Mao Tse-tung to a T." - Bradlee Dean

    "Your child or grandchild will not be able to escape Common Core materials that are anti-Christian, anti-capitalism, and anti-America. Or that are pro-homosexuality, illegal immigration, unions, environmentalism, gun control, feminism and social justice." - Elois Zeanah



    In lieu of those comments it appears our standards for learning have been lowered and dumbed down for far too long.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    In lieu of those comments it appears our standards for learning have been lowered and dumbed down for far too long.
    And would be further lowered and dumbed down under such an Outcome-Based, as opposed to Knowledge-Based, system.

    “Even if they said, ’3 x 4 was 11,’ if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in, umm, words and oral explanation, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong, we’re really more focused on the how,” - Amanda August, Common Core Curriculum Coordinator, Chicago, Illinois.
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    And would be further lowered and dumbed down under such an Outcome-Based, as opposed to Knowledge-Based, system.

    “Even if they said, ’3 x 4 was 11,’ if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in, umm, words and oral explanation, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong, we’re really more focused on the how,” - Amanda August, Common Core Curriculum Coordinator, Chicago, Illinois.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You learn to solve problems by reasoning and doing, not by memorizing.
    By all three, I would say.
    But saying that the correct answer to math problem doesn't matter as long as they can explain how they arrived at that incorrect answer, sets a pretty low standard, IMO
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by TML View Post
    By all three, I would say.
    But saying that the correct answer to math problem doesn't matter as long as they can explain how they arrived at that incorrect answer, sets a pretty low standard, IMO
    Getting the answer right without understanding the process is also a pretty low standard.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Some of the white suburban comments from your link.......


    "This is the progressive movement coming in for the kill. And believe me, if we don’t stop it, this will be the kill." – Glenn Beck

    "Most of us who lived through this Hitler era remember how British Prime Minister Chamberlain gushed how great Hitler’s Youth Corps was, much like those who support Common Core today." – Donald Conkey, Cherokee Tribune

    "Remember the quote by Hitler, 'Give me your children and in 10 years I’ll change society?' The Obama administration intends to do just that." – Elois Zeanah

    "What the heck am I talking about? The end of the world? Some kind of natural disaster? Zombies? No, something even scarier: the Common Core." – David Kierski

    "If this isn't Nazism, Communism, Marxism and all the 'ism's' I don't know what is." – Christina Michas

    "Today's teachers and psychologists are NOT being trained to educate students academically or to counsel and help people cope with their problems, but to influence their political views. Does it sound like we're becoming Castro's Cuba? I can tell you from personal experience that we're already there." - New Hampshire Tea Party

    "Our kids are going to be indoctrinated with extreme leftist ideology. That should terrify most people." - Glenn Beck

    "Now they’re teaching something called Common Core. Folks, this president is emulating dictators. Do you not understand that he is not playing games? If you look at Mao Tse-tung, this boy is emulating Mao Tse-tung to a T." - Bradlee Dean

    "Your child or grandchild will not be able to escape Common Core materials that are anti-Christian, anti-capitalism, and anti-America. Or that are pro-homosexuality, illegal immigration, unions, environmentalism, gun control, feminism and social justice." - Elois Zeanah



    In lieu of those comments it appears our standards for learning have been lowered and dumbed down for far too long.
    and yet another thread has been Godwined.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Getting the answer right without understanding the process is also a pretty low standard.
    Understanding the process is required in order to get the answer right. What's you're point?
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