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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    No, they cannot change a standard. Period. The standards are protected by copyright laws. Even if a district or state thinks a standard is too difficult so they aren't going to require their students to meet it, the kids will still be TESTED on it with the PARCC assessments.


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Here we go.... Common Core is as wrong today as you thought NCLB was wrong for its time. The only difference? It's being pushed under an Obama administration, even though NCLB was largely written by Teddy Kennedy, most liberals bristle at that charge, and will deny it to their last breath.

    I find the young man's message enlightening, refreshing, and right on. And the panel of overpaid administrators sitting there listening to it, with their six digit salaries, and their dismissive attitudes toward in the trenches teachers, and students will be dismissed probably before he was done giving it to them....And yet leaving aside the progressive attempt to subvert the curriculum involved with revisionist history among other things, it is the one size fits all cattle call that has progressivism thumb prints all over it....It should be trashed, and put something together at the local levels.....But that would take top down, centralized control away now wouldn't it.
    Yes, it would, wouldn't it, and we can't have that. Too many people would lose their cushy ivory tower jobs, so they'll never allow that to happen.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    No, they cannot change a standard. Period. The standards are protected by copyright laws. Even if a district or state thinks a standard is too difficult so they aren't going to require their students to meet it, the kids will still be TESTED on it with the PARCC assessments.
    Question:
    The National Governor’s Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers hold the copyright on the Common Core State Standards. Does that mean states can’t change the Common Core?
    The Short Answer
    In a word, yes — states can make changes to the Common Core. That’s according to a spokesman for Achieve, the education non-profit that helped develop the Common Core....

    As for the copyright, the Common Core State Standards are held under a public license that gives states who fully adopt the standards broad permission to use and reprint them. Colby says the main reason for copyrighting the standards was to protect the rights of the states who developed them. He says it also helps protects against charges that the federal government had a hand in writing the Common Core.

    “The copyright proves that the federal government does not own nor control the standards,” writes Colby.
    Core Question: Does Copyright Mean States Can't Change The Common Core? | StateImpact Indiana

    Check that link, I've already quoted him as saying states are encouraged to add nor subtract more than 15% of the standards.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    The problem is how Common Core is being used not so much what entity created it (state or federal). Instead of being used as a benchmark to strive toward it's being used as an absolute measure expected. For those students that don't meet that specific measure in a specific time frame, they are deemed failures. I enjoyed listening to the YouTube video of the young man speaking. Sanga already quoted about quantifying. So true.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    This guy is 1,000% correct and said it so much better than I ever could.
    take a stab at it josie, it's your thread

    what did this guy cite as the reasons not to apply the common core within our public education system

    i look forward to your reply
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    take a stab at it josie, it's your thread

    what did this guy cite as the reasons not to apply the common core within our public education system

    i look forward to your reply
    Let's see.... the entire philosophy that learning should be all about test scores, data and mind-numbing continual assessing?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
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    Core Question: Does Copyright Mean States Can't Change The Common Core? | StateImpact Indiana

    Check that link, I've already quoted him as saying states are encouraged to add nor subtract more than 15% of the standards.
    Again, I've already told you that you can add or subtract from Common Core standards, but you'll then be setting up your students to fail the Common Core testing if you don't teach them standards they'll be tested on. I'm not sure why you're harping on something that we already learned pages ago...


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Here's an example of what teachers now have to do under Common Core...

    I have students (several, actually) who read above grade level. They also get As on all of their math tests. Spelling words are waaaay too easy for them and they're writing like 3rd graders. They aren't the kids who need massive amounts of small group and one-on-one time with me and others to get them up to speed. They are really good at teaching themselves when I give them challenging work. Even though these kids are way ahead, way above grade level, ahead of the standards, I still have to look at them with a microscope. I can't just give them an A anymore and call it a day. No. I have to go through every standard under the umbrella of language arts and provide direct examples and documentation showing how I know they're doing well. And not just that I know they're meeting the standard, I have to show specific examples of how I know they're exceeding the standards. And then I have to do the same thing with math, social skills/behavior & science and social studies will be coming soon. Why do I have to do all of this stupid paperwork for kids who are obviously way above level when I could be spending that time actually teaching the kids who are way below level?


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Again, I've already told you that you can add or subtract from Common Core standards, but you'll then be setting up your students to fail the Common Core testing if you don't teach them standards they'll be tested on. I'm not sure why you're harping on something that we already learned pages ago...
    I think it's because, despite learning about this "pages ago", a the top of this page you said

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