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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You can google Harold Bloom and Alan Bloom or "the canon". It's also discussed in a book called "The Big Test" by a guy named Lemann or Lehman (I forget which)

    And yeah, "Leave No Child Behind" is way different than "No Child Left Behind"
    Common Core is a progressive initiative, applauded by Obama, funded through the Race to the Top agenda and accepted whole-heartedly by blue states. Yet you still say it's a conservative idea. LOL!

    If it is a conservative idea, why are the most conservative states rejecting it? Why are the most outspoken conservatives in our nation demanding a stop to it? Why are progressive states embracing it?
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Helping my spouse with her Algebra One papers, they had to explain how to do a slope-intercept problem..If I were my wife, I would be crying at there critical thinking..If you switch the 2x + 7 in (y = 2x + 7) and say (y = 7 + 2x), they will switch the slope and y-intercept..Forget teaching slope in Chemistry in 2 years later in lab for the real world and extend to computers and "lab reports",a form of our "critical thinking".
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Yeah, I know the Blooms. It's important to know what you're talking about when you say it otherwise you look like a fool. As you just did.

    Blooms Taxonomy has been part of education forever. Bloom ain't new.
    Exactly! There's nothing new about The Western Canon!

    Teaching a standard set of information is not an idea that Obama came up with

    Common Core is a progressive initiative, applauded by Obama, funded through the Race to the Top agenda and accepted whole-heartedly by blue states. Yet you still say it's a conservative idea. LOL!
    Nope. You can keep repeating that, but your complete inability to link it to any progressive concept demonstrates how little it has to do with liberal policy.

    Hint: Obama's education policies have been extremely right wing and liberal orgs (ex UFT and NEA) do not support them. Simply chanting "Obama, Obama!" doesn't prove anything. Obama has also continued many of bush*'s policies regarding terrorism.

    on edit: BTW, the Common Core initiative doesn't require any state to measure a childs social skills or emotional status. That may be how your state is implementing it, but it is not required by the initiative as far as I can tell.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Is this the Bloom of Bloom's taxonomy, the fore-runner of the still-quietly-used at 100% Madeline Hunter Theory of Learning..

    As one guy said, he spent his whole younger time trying to get in a box and now they're telling him to get out of the box..

    And when I was in Junior High/High School"71", we had Horace Mann..

    I was told by the old-timers in the 70's to just wait 5 years and a new way to do things would come along..Well, it's 38 years later and things are still changing in less than a decade every decade .

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You can google Harold Bloom and Alan Bloom or "the canon". It's also discussed in a book called "The Big Test" by a guy named Lemann or Lehman (I forget which)

    And yeah, "Leave No Child Behind" is way different than "No Child Left Behind"
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Nope. You can keep repeating that, but your complete inability to link it to any progressive concept demonstrates how little it has to do with liberal policy.
    Um...the entire thing is a progressive's dream. Every single child in every single class will be looked at with a microscope. Every single piece of their emotional, social behavior and academics will be documented and put into a neat little file for government officials to see and use. That's massive government - NOT a conservative ideal by any stretch of the imagination.

    Hint: Obama's education policies have been extremely right wing
    Bwhahahaha!

    and liberal orgs (ex UFT and NEA) do not support them.
    Oh, really? Show me UFT and NEA articles, speeches and videos of members who are protesting Common Core and Race to the Top. I want to see them.

    Please tell me....

    If it's a conservative idea, why are the most conservative states rejecting it? If it's a conservative idea, why are the most outspoken conservatives in America calling for an end to it? And if it's a conservative idea, why did every progressive state immediately jump on the CCSS bandwagon?


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Is this the Bloom of Bloom's taxonomy, the fore-runner of the still-quietly-used at 100% Madeline Hunter Theory of Learning..

    As one guy said, he spent his whole younger time trying to get in a box and now they're telling him to get out of the box..

    And when I was in Junior High/High School"71", we had Horace Mann..

    I was told by the old-timers in the 70's to just wait 5 years and a new way to do things would come along..Well, it's 38 years later and things are still changing in less than a decade every decade .
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    They're different Blooms than Bloom's Taxonomy which is why I edited that out.


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Hint: Obama's education policies have been extremely right wing and liberal orgs (ex UFT and NEA) do not support them. Simply chanting "Obama, Obama!" doesn't prove anything. Obama has also continued many of bush*'s policies regarding terrorism.
    Rahm Emmanuel is no liberal in education, just ask Chicago's Teacher's Union, so yes on right-wing..
    The other Daley wasn't liberal either and neither is Arne Duncan..

    Indiana elected a Democratic state supt. of school and she immediately opted out of common-core and especially the teacher evaluations, which even teachers admitted had a lot of good work that took a lot of time..

    Here in Illinois, we still have the CC albatross thrown around our necks from my POV as Repubs are probably saying about ACA--too much, too fast, too unorganized, (paid retired administrators, teachers)
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Um...the entire thing is a progressive's dream. Every single child in every single class will be looked at with a microscope. Every single piece of their emotional, social behavior and academics will be documented and put into a neat little file for government officials to see and use. That's massive government - NOT a conservative ideal by any stretch of the imagination.
    I'm assuming you missed the comment I added to my post so I'll repeat it:

    The Common Core initiative does not require any measurement of a childs social skills or emotional state.



    Bwhahahaha!
    It seems that the only argument you can make is "nuh-uh"




    Oh, really? Show me UFT and NEA articles, speeches and videos of members who are protesting Common Core and Race to the Top. I want to see them.

    Please tell me....

    If it's a conservative idea, why are the most conservative states rejecting it? If it's a conservative idea, why are the most outspoken conservatives in America calling for an end to it? And if it's a conservative idea, why did every progressive state immediately jump on the CCSS bandwagon?
    Umm, most conservative states, huh? 45 five out 50 states are implementing it. Only five states haven't implemented yet, and three of them have joined the initiative.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    If it's a conservative idea, why are the most conservative states rejecting it? If it's a conservative idea, why are the most outspoken conservatives in America calling for an end to it? And if it's a conservative idea, why did every progressive state immediately jump on the CCSS bandwagon?
    Conservative states don't like the grades their kids are getting so they blame the tests on the feds in many areas.
    They don't want to administer the tests at the current cost and are playing the state's rights card..

    Maine opted out of the science portion of the NECAP because their kids were getting pounded..

    Blue states are stupidly trying to maintain CC to show how tough they are, especially since we do have a great group at the top long before any of this NCLB/CC..

    Liberal state superintendents are bowing to the Unions as in Indiana, though a red state
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