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    Then why not say that rather than posting that video? It derails from the point you just made so eloquently and with great passion. I had to stop watching at 2:37 so could ask those questions. That's some rather fringe opinion she is putting over as fact. It may narrow the curriculum, but not for the purpose of stripping our children of full citizenship in a free society.
    Again, I posted the video for full context on why some people are against Common Core and the history behind the standards. I had already stated why I was against it.


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Again, I posted the video for full context on why some people are against Common Core and the history behind the standards. I had already stated why I was against it.
    Ok. Then why choose such a fringe opinion? Surely there must be more mainstream and reasonable objections to it?
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    Ok. Then why choose such a fringe opinion? Surely there must be more mainstream and reasonable objections to it?
    Fringe opinion? That video series is loaded with information about CCSS that is far from fringe. As I said, she kinda lost me with the ultimate end-goal stuff she went in to, but I completely agree and applaud the rest.


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Good effort, sangha. I hadn't even watched that video series until tonight. I don't need a youtube video to make a decision on a something that I've been living with every school day for the past 2 years. I have stated the reasons that I dislike Common Core and I will continue to do so. I posted the video to give everyone a background into the Stop Common Core movement and some of the history behind Common Core and it's origins. Since you're scoffing at it, perhaps you'd like to give the opposing viewpoint and tell us exactly what is incorrect in the video series and why CCSS is what's best for our students.
    I didn't watch the whole series but I watched the one you posted. Every second of it. I assume you did too

    It is nothing but a political screed, designed to exploit the wing nuts fear of Big Nanny State Government. The worst part about it was that it did not discuss the actual standards and explain why those were wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The worst part about it was that it did not discuss the actual standards and explain why those were wrong.
    Gee...perhaps that's because you didn't watch all the videos?


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Fringe opinion? That video series is loaded with information about CCSS that is far from fringe. As I said, she kinda lost me with the ultimate end-goal stuff she went in to, but I completely agree and applaud the rest.
    Yes, fringe opinion. It repeats "Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation" as if it were a slur of some kind. Between that, its' reference to Bill Ayers, federal takeover of state power, it paranoid implications of conspiracy (when it talks about the timing of the proposals), and it's lack of reference to the actual standards, it becomes obvious that it's nothing more than a political screed.

    The fact that she looks like a typical middle aged mom who speaks in a level tone does nothing to hide the content of what she's saying.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Gee...perhaps that's because you didn't watch all the videos?
    I watched the one *you* posted.

    I also watched two others. None of them discussed the actual standard. The closest they came was when she mentioned national standards vs decentralized in relation to international test scores. But again, that wasn't focused on the actual standards but instead was focused on how it was a federal "takeover"
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

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    Fringe opinion? That video series is loaded with information about CCSS that is far from fringe. As I said, she kinda lost me with the ultimate end-goal stuff she went in to, but I completely agree and applaud the rest.
    The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is subversive? They are part of the effort to take over the curriculum standards of all 50 states? They have given finds to Achieve Inc. She is also condemning the National Governors Association. This sounds like a conspiracy theory more than a history of CC. Prefacing the history with those two statements I asked you about two posts ago, raises red flags as to the veracity of the history that followed including the bit about Bill Ayers. That Bill Ayers who has received funding from the Annenbergs. Those Annenbergs, Walter and Lenore, who were great friends of President and Mrs. Reagan.
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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    Okay, Gina. You're upset because she has strong opinions about the people who started and funded the Common Core movement.... okaaaaay... I can't say I really care about that so much.... you'll have to take that up with her.


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    Re: Common Core lessons blasted for sneaking politics into elementary classrooms

    I get the impression that the people who are most opposed to the Common Core are from the states with the lowest test scores. We know what the result would be if the education system of red states like Mississippi or Louisiana had to compete against Vermont or New Hampshire. It would be embarrassing. And that's really what it's all about. People in The South don't want to be further embarrassed.

    For example, all this concern about the federal government taking power of the states. 40+ bills to repeal the ACA but not one to repeal NCLB. Yeah, these people really care about the federal usurpation of state power in Education.
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