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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, that is certainly interesting. I had no idea that they even could. I would venture a guess that there will be a stop put to that practice, in fairly short order.
    Well, corporate facism is the agenda, isn't it? Yes, in addition to now everyone is born in debt to corporate America, while at the same time corporate America now no longer has to provide insurance for employees, the Obama administration is talking of requiring doctors to work for whatever pay the government dictates or they will lose their medical license - so it follows they also will require hospitals to accept whatever payment the government dictates that they accept.

    Really, the only "fair" thing to do is just go all the way and dictate what manner of employment a person will have and what it will pay, except those designated to live on welfare and those designated for mandatory government employment. No one should criticize this either until it has been tried out for at least 5 years.

    The ACA is the greatest non-war fraud the government has ever committed. The most grotesque lie is that it provides insurance to the poor and uninsured. In fact, it justifies denying medical care to the poor and anyone else who isn't at least upper middle class by the HUGE deductibles and co-pays.

    No supporter yet on the forum has explained how "the poor" come up with $12,700 deductible/copay.

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Well, corporate facism is the agenda, isn't it? Yes, in addition to now everyone is born in debt to corporate America, while at the same time corporate America now no longer has to provide insurance for employees, the Obama administration is talking of requiring doctors to work for whatever pay the government dictates or they will lose their medical license - so it follows they also will require hospitals to accept whatever payment the government dictates that they accept.

    Really, the only "fair" thing to do is just go all the way and dictate what manner of employment a person will have and what it will pay, except those designated to live on welfare and those designated for mandatory government employment. No one should criticize this either until it has been tried out for at least 5 years.
    Unfortunately, it would not at all surprise me to find out that this will be the new reality at some point in time.
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Obama has a crack team designing a plug...
    Im sure they are a quack wegion and wank as high as any in wome!


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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im sure they are a quack wegion and wank as high as any in wome!

    Should anything go wrong Obama will deny any knowledge of the fault in developing the plug, of course.
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Even with a super majority in the Congress he just didn't have the votes to get such passed. He knew that, and knew it well in advance, having stated previously that it would need to be a multi-year process to get the public into a point where it'd accepted and welcome a Single Payer system as the primary means of health care in the country
    The sad thing about this path we've taken is it's basically predicated on getting enough voters (and town hall nitwits) to hate their health care and demand real reform. You criticized the politicians for allowing the predictable cascade of failure from obamacare, but they - or i should say a few dems and all repubs - similarly failed to do anything to prevent say 100 million people with lousy/no health care by 2024 that will lead to this demand. The only thing that could possibly prevent both scenarios was public option or single payer. The whole "market based solution" was elusive even as a serious counter-proposal because there is none.

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Of COURSE you get another option after they kill your plan....
    (you know...that plan you already had, liked, bought because it fit your needs, etc)


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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Edited...this was unfair. Will repost later

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Those people who buy their insurance through the exchanges is about 5% and I would venture a guess these are not people who go to the "top hospitals"

    Which Top Hospitals Take Your Health Insurance Under Obamacare? - US News and World Report
    You mean the healthcare system is going to collapse for 5%?
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You mean the healthcare system is going to collapse for 5%?
    Sure, why not? The other 95% had it coming anyway. Look in the mirror and say "Yes we can." Then, go watch the movie Putney Swope. You'll feel better.

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Those people who buy their insurance through the exchanges is about 5% and I would venture a guess these are not people who go to the "top hospitals"

    Which Top Hospitals Take Your Health Insurance Under Obamacare? - US News and World Report
    So the spin this time is "Don't worry folks! You wouldn't get into those top performing hospitals anyway! Mediocre is in!"
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